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notEnuf 10-08-2025 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3957641)
We have that now. Fact is, the company is denying YS over 6 when they do not have the option per PWA language. If you YS and can hold it, it should be awarded. I have a few cases "at impasse" on this. Not sure why a grievance isn't filed yet.

Ditto. I also have a few "submitted to the company" that have been in limbo for awhile. Inaction is managements tool now. Also one "in progress" since February. SMH

Planetrain 10-08-2025 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 3957649)
I've heard of those ALPA insurances but what are "well visit claims"? Why does Accident or Critical Illness cover a dentist visit? This clearly went over my head!

For each insurance, you can submit sick/injured claims.Thats the primary design of the insurance. There’s also a benefit called a “well visit claim”: for each insurance, you get $100, spouse gets a $100. Each kid gets $50 per insurance.

So family of 4:
Employee: $100, $100
Spouse: $100, $100
Kid: $50, $50
Kid: $50, $50

A well visit is an incentive the insurance company gives the insured to at least be minimally healthy. All you do is submit proof you did 1 of the following for each person (each year) you want the free money:

“Health screening tests covered by the Wellness Benefit include, but are not limited to:

• Immunizations/Vaccinations (including COVID vaccines and screening tests)

• Annual physical exams

• Routine eye exams

• Routine dental exams

• Mammography

• Biometric screenings

• Colonoscopy

• Bone density screenings

• And more”

Edit: I just did the math and my free wellness money is about equal to premiums. Add 1 claim and it’s well over premiums. It looks like once your age is in the mid-50’s, premiums begin to increase beyond wellness free money.


Hotel Kilo 10-08-2025 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by AirCoxswain (Post 3957593)
I’d think most people within a year or two of retirement wouldn’t spend the time on it. Maybe, they want to act in solidarity, but contract priorities don’t really matter to anyone who is hardly going to see the new contract. The deadzoners really tried to get a payday going out the door last time, but they failed and demographics have only gotten worse for that idea. Contracts are for the future and not the past. I care because I have a long time to live with it.

I did. So I think you're incorrect on that supposition.

tennisguru 10-08-2025 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3957641)
We have that now. Fact is, the company is denying YS over 6 when they do not have the option per PWA language. If you YS and can hold it, it should be awarded. I have a few cases "at impasse" on this. Not sure why a grievance isn't filed yet.

There is a grievance on the SC coverage automation, and I think this is one of the aspects that has been rolled into that.

StartngOvr 10-08-2025 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3957669)
There is a grievance on the SC coverage automation, and I think this is one of the aspects that has been rolled into that.

Haven't looked in a while to check, but if so should this change the entry in STS from "Impasse" to something else so we can know.....something?

Viper25 10-08-2025 01:36 PM

Is the DALPA site down for anyone else?

crewdawg 10-08-2025 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3957740)
Is the DALPA site down for anyone else?


Same. I can get into ALPA, but not DALPA.

StartngOvr 10-08-2025 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3957743)
Same. I can get into ALPA, but not DALPA.

Same. Thought it was VPN issue since not in USA....

velosnow 10-08-2025 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3957750)
Same. Thought it was VPN issue since not in USA....

Been slow for a few days it seems. Took awhile to load last I looked but eventually got on.

Viper25 10-08-2025 03:58 PM

Finally got on to the site. That list of MEC Grievances on the Contract Admin page has been growing steadily every month. It’s now almost two full pages. Was only one page, earlier just this year.

igotgummed 10-08-2025 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3957785)
Finally got on to the site. That list of MEC Grievances on the Contract Admin page has been growing steadily every month. It’s now almost two full pages. Was only one page, earlier just this year.

#KEEPYOURDEALS

vinny7 10-09-2025 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3957654)
For each insurance, you can submit sick/injured claims.Thats the primary design of the insurance. There’s also a benefit called a “well visit claim”: for each insurance, you get $100, spouse gets a $100. Each kid gets $50 per insurance.

So family of 4:
Employee: $100, $100
Spouse: $100, $100
Kid: $50, $50
Kid: $50, $50

A well visit is an incentive the insurance company gives the insured to at least be minimally healthy. All you do is submit proof you did 1 of the following for each person (each year) you want the free money:

“Health screening tests covered by the Wellness Benefit include, but are not limited to:

• Immunizations/Vaccinations (including COVID vaccines and screening tests)

• Annual physical exams

• Routine eye exams

• Routine dental exams

• Mammography

• Biometric screenings

• Colonoscopy

• Bone density screenings

• And more”

Edit: I just did the math and my free wellness money is about equal to premiums. Add 1 claim and it’s well over premiums. It looks like once your age is in the mid-50’s, premiums begin to increase beyond wellness free money.

where do we submit this at? I have critical illness but see no where to submit my health visit. And can we just submit our class 1 on top of dental?

AirCoxswain 10-09-2025 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3957667)
I did. So I think you're incorrect on that supposition.

And you think you're typical of your demographic?

Planetrain 10-09-2025 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by vinny7 (Post 3957909)
where do we submit this at? I have critical illness but see no where to submit my health visit. And can we just submit our class 1 on top of dental?

Sign-in ALPA.org-> top right hamburger menu, “benefits”-> critical illness-> critical illness-> file a claim

this links you to voya’s file a claim site. Here you are filling a wellness benefit claim. On the online form you can do it for you and your whole family relatively easy, all at once, and both critical illness and accident at the same time. You need all person’s DOB, SS#s, and dates/providers of visits.

I put my EKG date from the class 1 in lieu of dental.

Hotel Kilo 10-09-2025 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by AirCoxswain (Post 3957913)
And you think you're typical of your demographic?

Yes, but I can only speak to my specific cohort.

iaflyer 10-09-2025 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain (Post 3957639)
Just a small PSA….
If you haven’t signed up for 1) ALPA (Voya) Accident and 2) ALPA (Voya) Critical Illness insurance for you and your family, you’re doing it wrong. I glossed over it for a few years and signed up after listening to one of the engage podcasts on this topic earlier this year. Never had to use either insurance yet, but recently turned in my well visit “claims” for the first time (to the dentist), and just had the deposits hit my checking account. Several hundred dollars that far exceeded my premiums. YMMV based on age and how many family members, but worth checking out. You can sign up anytime through ALPA national website, but certainly worth considering as we coincidentally approach open enrollment in November for the company benefits. If you’re younger, this is as no-brainer as DPMA. Don’t miss it! Basically free money.

Don't forget that they are giving payment holidays for Nov and Dec like they did last year (no premiums due) so it's even cheaper!

If you have kids these two insurances are no-brainers.

Whoopsmybad 10-10-2025 06:01 AM

So are we back to 50%/100% on reroutes now? I thought it was still at 100% with 200% being grieved.

OOfff 10-10-2025 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3958281)
So are we back to 50%/100% on reroutes now? I thought it was still at 100% with 200% being grieved.

it was never 100/200.

tennisguru 10-10-2025 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3958304)
it was never 100/200.

It was supposed to jump up when they didn't have certain automation in place by a certain deadline. ALPA says that deadline was missed, triggering the extra RR pay. Company naturally disagrees.

Whoopsmybad 10-10-2025 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3958304)
it was never 100/200.

I know that. But we had a time that all reroutes were paying 100, and there was a grievance because if they didn’t meet a timeline and they were supposed to pay 200, but the company said they met that timeline. I just don’t know where we were on that process, and if we were back to 50/100 now. Been a bit since I’ve been rerouted.

OOfff 10-10-2025 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3958323)
I know that. But we had a time that all reroutes were paying 100, and there was a grievance because if they didn’t meet a timeline and they were supposed to pay 200, but the company said they met that timeline. I just don’t know where we were on that process, and if we were back to 50/100 now. Been a bit since I’ve been rerouted.

we’re in the impasse stage of that process.

FangsF15 10-10-2025 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3958333)
we’re in the impasse stage of that process.

Right. Maybe I missed it, but I don’t remember there being a period in the current contract where the company was actually paying anything other than 150/200.

Whoopsmybad 10-10-2025 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3958365)
Right. Maybe I missed it, but I don’t remember there being a period in the current contract where the company was actually paying anything other than 150/200.

there was a bit that all reroutes were paying 100 on top (200 if you would) because of missed deadlines. Then ALPA claimed another missed deadline, and it was supposed to go to 200 (300).

FangsF15 10-10-2025 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3958395)
there was a bit that all reroutes were paying 100 on top (200 if you would) because of missed deadlines. Then ALPA claimed another missed deadline, and it was supposed to go to 200 (300).

I guess I must have missed that. But the company is currently paying 150/200 on reroutes, against which a grievance has been filed after ALPA claimed the automation for sick/well was not implatemented on time.

I have a gut feeling that ALPA's documented cases of the automation not working will be waved away by the mediator as independent "glitches". And that we will never see the increased (back) pay.

Whoopsmybad 10-10-2025 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3958401)
I guess I must have missed that. But the company is currently paying 150/200 on reroutes, against which a grievance has been filed after ALPA claimed the automation for sick/well was not implatemented on time.

I have a gut feeling that ALPA's documented cases of the automation not working will be waved away by the mediator as independent "glitches". And that we will never see the increased (back) pay.

Yeah, and it’s still not working, I had to submit a correction for a sick out trip for last month.

Gulfasaurus 10-10-2025 10:57 AM

Does the lack of well functioning sick call automation mean we can still use the greater variety of medical professionals for a GFB per their settlement or since they're claiming everything's fine we're back to needing an actual MD?

tennisguru 10-10-2025 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Gulfasaurus (Post 3958432)
Does the lack of well functioning sick call automation mean we can still use the greater variety of medical professionals for a GFB per their settlement or since they're claiming everything's fine we're back to needing an actual MD?

Also at an impasse. So if you don't use the company's approved list they will deny it. You may get your missed pay back if there's ever a settlement, either through the mediation/grievance process or as a part of settling old grievances when a new PWA is signed. Personally I wouldn't roll the dice on that one.

Crazyernie 10-10-2025 02:21 PM

Dazed and confused
 
Any guesses to why ARCOS calls for slips and then trip goes to a reserve or is rerun later even though there were hands raised? I was number one for a WS today and the trip disappeared after the initial call. Then, it reappeared an hour later and I was number 4 and it was assigned to somebody else... Seems off to me, but maybe there's legit reasons.

Vector Victor 10-14-2025 05:12 AM

United's Starlink Wi-Fi was just featured on the Today Show. They pitched it as a major upgrade. Has anyone seen how it actually performs?

https://youtu.be/NGBOUzcN7Jc


Uninteresting 10-14-2025 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Vector Victor (Post 3959631)
United's Starlink Wi-Fi was just featured on the Today Show. They pitched it as a major upgrade. Has anyone seen how it actually performs?

https://youtu.be/NGBOUzcN7Jc

it’s apparently going in most new biz jets and many are being retrofitted with SL. As they say, follow the $$$ (or build it and they will come). It’s the future. get on or get left behind (sorta like dl’s 75/76 fleet).

dmhpilot 10-14-2025 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Vector Victor (Post 3959631)
United's Starlink Wi-Fi was just featured on the Today Show. They pitched it as a major upgrade. Has anyone seen how it actually performs?

https://youtu.be/NGBOUzcN7Jc

Two uses of it on their RJs…it is fast and stable. Statistically invalid data though.

FyrePilot 10-14-2025 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by dmhpilot (Post 3959678)
Two uses of it on their RJs…it is fast and stable. Statistically invalid data though.


They just got it approved for the 737s. I have used it on HAL and JSX so far. It is fast. It doesn't get bogged down even with many users. It works over the ocean. If Viasat doesn't get their act together quickly I am sure DL will be forced to go to with starlink in the near future. All eyes on the launch of the ViaSat-3 F2 launch that is supposed to happen late October. It is probably a make or break moment for Viasat

Uninteresting 10-14-2025 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by FyrePilot (Post 3959773)
They just got it approved for the 737s. I have used it on HAL and JSX so far. It is fast. It doesn't get bogged down even with many users. It works over the ocean. If Viasat doesn't get their act together quickly I am sure DL will be forced to go to with starlink in the near future. All eyes on the launch of the ViaSat-3 F2 launch that is supposed to happen late October. It is probably a make or break moment for Viasat

VSAT will be fine. The market certainly believes it’s the real deal. Stock was $9 in June. $37 today.
Problem will be no controls on people getting on FaceTime or Zoom calls. It’s supposed to be on the honor system to not do so and enforced by FAs.

Extenda 10-15-2025 05:08 AM

Scheduling question: so trip in OT in my well staffed category is in open time all evening. OOBWS, back in OT, SC assignment, back in OT. Then it goes out like 6 hours later finally as an “A” to someone very junior. Me and my buddies could have gotten the trip, but received no IA calls in the middle of the night. Shouldn’t the entire category who was legal for the trip been blasted with an IA call? Not sure the difference between IA and A in trip coverage. Thanks.

sailingfun 10-15-2025 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3960051)
Scheduling question: so trip in OT in my well staffed category is in open time all evening. OOBWS, back in OT, SC assignment, back in OT. Then it goes out like 6 hours later finally as an “A” to someone very junior. Me and my buddies could have gotten the trip, but received no IA calls in the middle of the night. Shouldn’t the entire category who was legal for the trip been blasted with an IA call? Not sure the difference between IA and A in trip coverage. Thanks.

If the pilot who was awarded it was very junior on a IA call isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

Extenda 10-15-2025 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3960056)
If the pilot who was awarded it was very junior on a IA call isn’t that how it’s supposed to work?

I think functionally, they just toss out IA calls to everyone all at once, and whoever is fastest on the line to CS gets it. They generally go senior from what I’ve seen especially in a category that’s well staffed. I’m not trying to sound conspiratorial I’m just curious how/why CS is filling these kind of oddball OT scenarios.

CBreezy 10-15-2025 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3960057)
I think functionally, they just toss out IA calls to everyone all at once, and whoever is fastest on the line to CS gets it. They generally go senior from what I’ve seen especially in a category that’s well staffed. I’m not trying to sound conspiratorial I’m just curious how/why CS is filling these kind of oddball OT scenarios.

That sounds like deal making. Almost every IA I've seen has gone pretty junior.

hockeypilot44 10-15-2025 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3960057)
I think functionally, they just toss out IA calls to everyone all at once, and whoever is fastest on the line to CS gets it. They generally go senior from what I’ve seen especially in a category that’s well staffed. I’m not trying to sound conspiratorial I’m just curious how/why CS is filling these kind of oddball OT scenarios.

They go senior because they are skipping the GS step. I did my first IA last week. I wanted trip as a GS. First call I got was 5 minutes prior to report for IA. I pressed 1 and was disconnected. Called scheduling back, sat on hold for 12 minutes, then was given trip as IA almost 20 minutes after sign in. Trip started with DH to where I live otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to make it. This isn’t how IA’s are supposed to work. They did put trip on 23.M.7 report though so I supposed there’s that.

In my case, I don’t think anyone else wanted trip since it was past report, but it’s not supposed to be like this. Racing to get through.

Extenda 10-15-2025 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3960073)
They go senior because they are skipping the GS step. I did my first IA last week. I wanted trip as a GS. First call I got was 5 minutes prior to report for IA. I pressed 1 and was disconnected. Called scheduling back, sat on hold for 12 minutes, then was given trip as IA almost 20 minutes after sign in. Trip started with DH to where I live otherwise I wouldn’t have been able to make it. This isn’t how IA’s are supposed to work. They did put trip on 23.M.7 report though so I supposed there’s that.

In my case, I don’t think anyone else wanted trip since it was past report, but it’s not supposed to be like this. Racing to get through.

Right. I’m just curious, if you see any “A” or “IA” trip covered, doesn’t it mean that every single legal pilot should have gotten a phone call all at once, then whoever is first to contact CS (probably 30 seconds later) gets the IA? I’m just wondering why me and my buddies never got the robo call.

EDIT: Wait do they do batch sizes in inverse seniority for IA calls? That’s would explain it.

CBreezy 10-15-2025 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3960085)
Right. I’m just curious, if you see any “A” or “IA” trip covered, doesn’t it mean that every single legal pilot should have gotten a phone call all at once, then whoever is first to contact CS (probably 30 seconds later) gets the IA? I’m just wondering why me and my buddies never got the robo call.

I think technically they robo call starting at the bottom of the list. I don't know how instantaneous it is. In theory, it can go out at once. I've gotten IA calls hours after a trip was covered


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