From DALPA website.


https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...djustments.pdf

Lots of PBSPR posted in the bid packs...

Sshhhh!!! It's hidden very well, and most people won't even look for it!

Reminder, these pay 150%, not 200%.

Does this include any holiday pay?

Holiday pay never receives any premium treatment.

And…it only pays the premium if you actually fly it. If you call in sick..poof, premium gone.

if its not a contractually compliant hotel, you'll be owed I believe an extra days pay. I went through this this past spring.

There’s a couple in my category over Christmas and New Year’s.
So, if it’s a 2-day 10:30 trip departing on the 24th, would it pay 26:15? (10:30x1.5)+(5:15x2)
Not bad for a 2-day trip. Especially if someone is forced to fly it.

It'll go senior :D

Absolutely they will.

One of the many nice things about a family who doesn't care when we celebrate things, is that I can sometimes take advantage of these things. I don't mention anything and let them set the day we celebrate these events and this year they chose the weekend prior. No reason not to bid one of these trips since the actual day is just another day.

Do OOBWS run 2 days prior during the regular PCS runs?

Thanks Scoop

OOBWS is part of the manual coverage process which starts after PCS (except for swaps) no longer runs. This is after the 0700 run on the second day prior to the trip reporting.

You Da Man! Thanks. :)

Question… I have a day trip on Sunday I picked up which now says NOOP and not 23k. I also noticed my time card is missing those hours. Is there a reason why it doesn’t say 23k? It does show a 6 hour window on call that day tho. Do the hours get added after the day depending on what I fly?

In my experience, it takes a couple days for them to get their crap together and get it back on your card. I think the 6 hour window showing is your 23K, but I’ve never seen it that way. Might be because it was just a day turn?

Speaking of pay..does anyone's timecard show Holiday pay for Thanksgiving yet? Mine doesn't show mine. How is it not automatically added?

That’s what I thought, but like you mentioned I haven’t seen it that way before.

Also to add on, since it says NOOP (not 23k) am I not eligible for a greenslip? I noticed I missed out on a whole bunch.

You aren’t eligible since you still have a recovery obligation. Once that 6 hour window passes if you don’t get used then you’ll be free to GS for a report as soon as 10 hours after the end of the call period

Ah ok, thank you.

Just for anyone lurking, when a NOOP happens, realize 23K is just a scheduling pay code.

To determine if you actually have a recovery obligation, best practice is to check your schedule in iCrew (NOT MiCrew), click OK, then click on "Display Reserve Call Status Information". On the page that displays, if you see a 6 hour window, starting at your original report time, labeled as "NR" (Not Rest), then you have a recovery obligation. If nothing shows, then you are off the hook.

Remember, you can pick up a 'recovery slip' of at least half the credit of the original trip if you would rather jump on that mini-grenade, and that will fulfill your recovery obligation.
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Also, if you use a recovery slip, it does not have to be in the footprint of your initial trip. It doesn’t even have to be on the same days as your initial trip, then once you get recovery, you can’t be rerouted again pre-rotation (double 23k). A lot of us learned these rules during covid IROPS.

Typo. Doesn't. Must be at least half the original credit is another important note

Isn't there some provision for doing it in the next month too? Never get 23K as a RES.

I don't believe it has to be in the same bid period, either.

No it does not, as long as the next bid period is already published.

Yes, mine shows 5.15HOL on the rotation and 5+15 under ADDTL PAY ONLY on the time card.

Easy way to remember it:

Anything outside of 2 days is automated PCS: WS, SS, PD, APD, IVD, VAS, recovery slips, X-day, SwP (NOT A PROFFER, system assumes that you are watching what you do).
This is the "auto PCS" and is run entirely by the computer. No scheduler looks at or touches it. You can see the sequence "auto" PCS operates in 23 E.2. When you hear "runs in PCS" it almost always means the "prior to 2nd day" automatic PCS functions. This is the system that runs 4 times a day at set times.

Anything inside of 2 days* is manual coverage and is mostly done on a proffer basis. You put your requests in PCS (makes that nice and confusing), but they are handled by Crew Scheduling. Follows 23 N & O ladders. The only time the coverage ladders come into play is 2nd day, next day, same day. When you hear the phrase "trip coverage" or "rotation coverage" it is almost always talking about the 23 M. (think M for manual) manual trip coverage sequence. Filling of trips during this period effectively happens when it happens.

*You can check a box to be included on the 0700 run on 2nd day.

*Leave type auto PCS (APD, PD, etc) as well as SwtP continues to run inside 2nd day.

Pilot to Pilot Swap for rotations and X days is completely automated. No scheduler looks at it. Executed instantly. Run by a completely different system.

Jetway trades are semi-manually handled by CS.

If cs call you before the start of a shortcall by 3 hours is that breaking rest?
Tyia

If you determine it did yes. They are allowed one contact which by itself doesn't break rest, but if you say/feel it did, its your call.

Basically if contacted within 10 hours of assignment/sc or in a 30 hour, they get a freebee but if you say it interrupted rest, it did. They know that is a risk when they attempt one call.

This is a really good cliffs-notes breakdown of the process(es). Kudos.

Quick question for the PWA brain trust here....Had a maintenance issue that delayed the flight 22 hours. We tripped the 19.5 hour gate, load control can't issue an WDR with the original flight number beyond that so they changed the flight number for our original flight, now delayed 23 hours. I see in MiCrew they annotated a "pay ADJ" on that trip, but its been over 14 business days and nothing is reflecting on my time card. Is this technically a re-route? I can't seem to find it. TYIA.

There is no reroute pay due for delayed operations even with a flight number change

Gotcha, then what is the "Pay ADJ" thing on the rotation in MiCrew??

No idea? Maybe they opened the case to give you reroute pay when the flight number changed and then realized it wasn't a reroute?

So there’s a pay adj showing in MiCrew but not on your time card?
Those 2 normally correlate, with a pay adj line on your time card.

Correct. It's been well over 14 business days too. "Pay ADJ" still showing on MiCrew as well. Just checked it.