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m3113n1a1 05-09-2022 05:32 PM

I think everyone, including retirees, should be paid full retro PLUS interest. We need to disincentivize dragging out future contracts. And really it's only fair. We've been working under an expired (amenable) contract.

Der Meister 05-09-2022 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3419787)
I think everyone, including retirees, should be paid full retro PLUS interest. We need to disincentivize dragging out future contracts. And really it's only fair. We've been working under an expired (amenable) contract.

100% as the union put out today. Were almost at contract 2023, time to start negotiating for 2023 with 2019 improvements. Pay up Delta!just like you paid up for your investments in foreign airlines/ stock buy buy backs. There is no amount of Laughter nore Gumm that will deter us on our quest for the best contract

Hrkdrivr 05-09-2022 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Planetrain;[url=tel:3419555
3419555[/url]]There was a pop up message on my icrew.

Interesting. I got nothing and still have nothing.

crewdawg 05-10-2022 01:42 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3419728)
But we don't retire. We are forced to leave. There is no retirement.



Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3419731)
I can gu-ar-an-tee you that ALPA will screw those retired guys out of anything they should have coming to them. It will be called a 'Signing bonus'


Wait, so do we retire or not? If the first quote is true, the second can't be true... :D

crewdawg 05-10-2022 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr (Post 3419825)
Interesting. I got nothing and still have nothing.


Have you updated your bids in the last 6 months? The pop-up I received said, "records show you haven't updated your bids in 6 months."

Scoop 05-10-2022 03:03 AM

Reserve X day sanity check
 
Trying to figure out X days in June - 30 days, ALV 80:00 hours, 3 days for CQ. No extra X day. With 27 days available I calculate 11 X days from the table but the John Bell calculator spits out 12. If it comes to me or the calculator, experience tells me to trust the calculator :D.

What am I missing? Is it 11 or 12 days? Not a big deal but I might put an all or nothing in there.

Thanks

TED74 05-10-2022 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 3419877)
Trying to figure out X days in June - 30 days, ALV 80:00 hours, 3 days for CQ. No extra X day. With 27 days available I calculate 11 X days from the table but the John Bell calculator spits out 12. If it comes to me or the calculator, experience tells me to trust the calculator :D.

What am I missing? Is it 11 or 12 days? Not a big deal but I might put an all or nothing in there.

Thanks

I’d go with John Bell’s number. CQ is not days of availability-reducing (since it’s paid Delta work) in the same way a PLOA or MLOA might be. My hunch is the math behind the adjustment for CQ brings you down in the X day table as though the ALV and reserve guarantee were in the lower half and not the upper.

nene 05-10-2022 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3419787)
I think everyone, including retirees, should be paid full retro PLUS interest. We need to disincentivize dragging out future contracts. And really it's only fair. We've been working under an expired (amenable) contract.

I'm sure if you took a poll you'd get 95% agreement, but when/if TA1 comes out and has very juicy raises and otherwise is a good deal minus the full retro, you'll be surprised how quickly it'll become an afterthought.

Company knows who is and is not voting for this mythical future contract. Signing bonuses capture more excitement of the voters than retro does especially as the months/years roll on and new hires populate the scene and retirees fade into memories.

Breadcream 05-10-2022 05:50 AM

This just in…

I’m in the middle of a 30 day stretch in ATL. Just ran into some Top Men and can confirm we should have a new contract sometime in the next 3 years. I’ll let y’all no if I can squeeze any more juicy details outta them.

JustNarced 05-10-2022 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Breadcream (Post 3419915)
This just in…

I’m in the middle of a 30 day stretch in ATL. Just ran into some Top Men and can confirm we should have a new contract sometime in the next 3 years. I’ll let y’all no if I can squeeze any more juicy details outta them.

Excellent. Havent had a good Man Topper rumor in some time.


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