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nene 04-08-2022 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3402504)
Believe it or not, no. It has more to do with controlling LEC votes than actual hotels. FL is one of our largest markets and they once closed an MCO base. They closed a DFW base during BK, many argue it was over the MEC chair who lived there. That made ATL the largest base and we all know there is something special about that place.

When we had an MCO base in the past it was for Delta Express flying which was almost a completely seperate flying than the rest of the company. Of course back then the express pilots were going to have a whole different set of priorities (starting with getting express pay rates to at least the same as mainline) than the rest of the LEC's would be concerned with. A base there now would be much more aligned with current other LEC's concerns and not as threatening.

Starcheck102 04-08-2022 05:49 AM

We could have had a virtual base in MCO in 2018, but the MEC decided to pull it down without giving the pilots any say in the matter.

contrails 04-08-2022 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Starcheck102 (Post 3402575)
We could have had a virtual base in MCO in 2018, but the MEC decided to pull it down without giving the pilots any say in the matter.

Better yet, they can open a real base in MCO any time they want. They've chosen not to.

Rooster435 04-08-2022 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 3402627)
Better yet, they can open a real base in MCO any time they want. They've chosen not to.

At this point they've dug such a big hole that they don’t have the training capacity to open anything. I’m guessing that’s why Boston hasn’t opened as well.

Wolf424 04-08-2022 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3402531)
When we had an MCO base in the past it was for Delta Express flying which was almost a completely seperate flying than the rest of the company.

https://youtu.be/3qNtyfZP8bE

gloopy 04-08-2022 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3402528)
I was thinking the same thing this weekend as an A321 diverted to PBI and flight crew timed out with last arrival to PBI canceled. Imagine if you had a small MCO base staffed with the right variety of BES's, in a pinch you could with a 3hr drive cover stranded flights in at least 8+ FL airports served by mainline.

Only if its an OOBGS that includes transportation credit. No way can we give them an 8+ FL "co-base" that would be asinine.

Rooster435 04-08-2022 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3402790)
Only if its an OOBGS that includes transportation credit. No way can we give them an 8+ FL "co-base" that would be asinine.

It would be in base GS with ground deadhead. That’s the way EWR should be in my opinion.

gloopy 04-08-2022 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 3402660)
At this point they've dug such a big hole that they don’t have the training capacity to open anything. I’m guessing that’s why Boston hasn’t opened as well.

Maybe, but if they did it right it could actually help. Small initial base and slowly add to it, corresponding reduction in NYC slots.

That would reduce commuters immediately, help with coverage and in the medium to long term help the training churn as well.

gloopy 04-08-2022 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 3402794)
It would be in base GS with ground deadhead. That’s the way EWR should be in my opinion.

Yeah that makes sense.

JustNarced 04-08-2022 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3402531)
When we had an MCO base in the past it was for Delta Express flying which was almost a completely seperate flying than the rest of the company. Of course back then the express pilots were going to have a whole different set of priorities (starting with getting express pay rates to at least the same as mainline) than the rest of the LEC's would be concerned with. A base there now would be much more aligned with current other LEC's concerns and not as threatening.

Excellent point. Thank you.


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