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sailingfun 04-09-2022 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 3402794)
It would be in base GS with ground deadhead. That’s the way EWR should be in my opinion.

The utility of that we be very limited. The coverage sequence would have to be processed. You would need to find a Captain and FO in this small base. They would have at least 2 hours to report at MCO. Then get in the transportation if it could be arranged that fast. The departure would have to be scheduled for 1 hour after the transportation arrives. Not much utility in that.

JamesBond 04-09-2022 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3401879)
That plan includes reroutes. Telling the pilots how great they are and how they appreciate us. Also, hang in there, we are going to address the problems that have been going on for 2-3 years..:D

I have said it before.... I have a little more than 3 years, and I will not see a new contract. Ya'll better damned well get retro. :)

JamesBond 04-09-2022 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 3402627)
Better yet, they can open a real base in MCO any time they want. They've chosen not to.

What does a 'real' base even mean anymore? I wouldn't know who my CPO is if he walked into my room right now. I can do anything/everything I need to do via electronic means for the most part. The only real downside I can see is that the company could eliminate a bunch of deadheading, but since errybody is whining continually about center seats, that would be a good thing, no? As long as we have PS commuting (sort of) all should be good.

Iceberg 04-09-2022 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3403349)
What does a 'real' base even mean anymore? I wouldn't know who my CPO is if he walked into my room right now. I can do anything/everything I need to do via electronic means for the most part. The only real downside I can see is that the company could eliminate a bunch of deadheading, but since errybody is whining continually about center seats, that would be a good thing, no? As long as we have PS commuting (sort of) all should be good.

It means it’s opened and closed with the contractual protections, not swapping equipment and size monthly at the behest of network, therefor giving pilots a true idea of what they’re bidding for and MD benefits if they get shut out.

Planetrain 04-09-2022 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3403349)
What does a 'real' base even mean anymore? I wouldn't know who my CPO is if he walked into my room right now. I can do anything/everything I need to do via electronic means for the most part. The only real downside I can see is that the company could eliminate a bunch of deadheading, but since errybody is whining continually about center seats, that would be a good thing, no? As long as we have PS commuting (sort of) all should be good.

James, let me help you summarize the pages about virtual base….

Positive space commuting -> Sacrosanct. Takes stress out of commuting. Doesn’t help in base people other than keeps jumpseats open. (Punishes your S2 seniority out of MCO on vacation)

Virtual base -> Heresy and Antiunion! How dare you remove credit from DTW and MSP? Eliminates commuting for some. At least until the company changes their minds? Maybe only keeps the base open half the year? Unknown? Doesn’t matter, I can bid for it month to month. If it stinks, I can stay in my actual base and commute as it were.

Real new base -> Godsend. Removes credit from DTW and MSP, but forces the company to keep A320s where they said they would be. At least until the company changes their minds and cuts it in half, might keep a fleet there a year, then move them again. 717s, 777s… Who knows? Could be a year plus to convert in or out the base…. #leroyjenkins #miata #tigerblood #kipeatsnachosandtalkstosweetbabesallday

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Abouttime2fish 04-11-2022 12:33 PM

Rumor has it positive space commuting going away, but in exchange FAs got beards, nose rings, and no panties!

Pilots should demand the same, plus tattoo’s!

Gone Flying 04-11-2022 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3403242)
The utility of that we be very limited. The coverage sequence would have to be processed. You would need to find a Captain and FO in this small base. They would have at least 2 hours to report at MCO. Then get in the transportation if it could be arranged that fast. The departure would have to be scheduled for 1 hour after the transportation arrives. Not much utility in that.

sounds a lot quicker than trying to do the same from ATL

Gone Flying 04-11-2022 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3402790)
Only if its an OOBGS that includes transportation credit. No way can we give them an 8+ FL "co-base" that would be asinine.

I could see an argument for an MCO/TPA base and/or a PBI/FLL/MIA base.

as we simplify our fleet types, hopefully we might see a couple more bases.

gloopy 04-11-2022 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3404530)
I could see an argument for an MCO/TPA base and/or a PBI/FLL/MIA base.

as we simplify our fleet types, hopefully we might see a couple more bases.

The issue with those is still reserves who don't live there and locals who live near the realistic limits of one but even more for the other(s). Its completely unreasonable to expect anyone to commute to one yet cover the other. MCO-TPA is 2 or more hour drive even assuming an "airport car" which most don't have. If you're already 1-2 hours NE/SE of MCO, then its even more. IMO we don't need to give any relief on what a base is. If anything EWR and some of the LA "terminals" need to be removed from existing bases. We absolutely don't need to be adding more.

Abouttime2fish 04-11-2022 03:17 PM

No more co-bases. The ones we have already are BS and need to be broken up. I’ll give them jfk and lga as long as there is company transportation between the two.


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