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AirbusPTC 04-12-2022 05:32 PM

Oh, Flight Ops hears us all right, they just don't care. They pump out letter after letter, filled with "corporate speak"...that typical sanitized, say nothing, take no responsibility corporate BS speak. Telling the pilots how great they are, how they appreciate us. How we should just hang in there, because soon management is going to address the problems that have been plaguing Delta for decades. Either we codify the items needed to improve our QOL and pay in THIS contract or it will never get done. There is a pilot shortage for gods sake! It's either now or never. This company will NEVER change unless we force it to, period.

Der Meister 04-12-2022 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by AirbusPTC (Post 3405224)
Oh, Flight Ops hears us all right, they just don't care. They pump out letter after letter, filled with "corporate speak"...that typical sanitized, say nothing, take no responsibility corporate BS speak. Telling the pilots how great they are, how they appreciate us. How we should just hang in there, because soon management is going to address the problems that have been plaguing Delta for decades. Either we codify the items needed to improve our QOL and pay in THIS contract or it will never get done. There is a pilot shortage for gods sake! It's either now or never. This company will NEVER change unless we force it to, period.

Dilly Dilly!

TurbineBlade 04-14-2022 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by AirbusPTC (Post 3405224)
Oh, Flight Ops hears us all right, they just don't care. They pump out letter after letter, filled with "corporate speak"...that typical sanitized, say nothing, take no responsibility corporate BS speak. Telling the pilots how great they are, how they appreciate us. How we should just hang in there, because soon management is going to address the problems that have been plaguing Delta for decades. Either we codify the items needed to improve our QOL and pay in THIS contract or it will never get done. There is a pilot shortage for gods sake! It's either now or never. This company will NEVER change unless we force it to, period.

What he said.

DALFA 04-16-2022 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 3402627)
Better yet, they can open a real base in MCO any time they want. They've chosen not to.

This baffles me. We have over 600 flight attendants in the MCO base (and growing). Tomorrow we have 60 mainline departures out of MCO. A majority are on the A320/321 or 757/767.

Why not have a pilot base there?

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-16-2022 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 3407137)
This baffles me. We have over 600 flight attendants in the MCO base (and growing). Tomorrow we have 60 mainline departures out of MCO. A majority are on the A320/321 or 757/767.

Why not have a pilot base there?

BOS is pushing 150 departures plus the FA base, but still no pilot base.

PilotBases 04-16-2022 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3407142)
BOS is pushing 150 departures plus the FA base, but still no pilot base.

I was absolutely amazed last time I was in BOS for the morning push. Every A gate full and pushing. Had 3 DL jets in a row taking off with more chugging over.

Id assume biggest thing with BOS is there is no dominant aircraft. It’s a split of 220/320/330/73/ER. No real primary jet to make a category of. 321neo probably swings the balance to 320 category eventually.

DALFA 04-16-2022 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3407142)
BOS is pushing 150 departures plus the FA base, but still no pilot base.

Not mainline. Tomorrow there's 63 mainline departures from BOS.

Iceberg 04-16-2022 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 3407149)
Not mainline. Tomorrow there's 63 mainline departures from BOS.

I didn’t look at the schedule at all, so I may be completely wrong, but I bet tomorrow being Easter Sunday affects things.

Myfingershurt 04-17-2022 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3407157)
I didn’t look at the schedule at all, so I may be completely wrong, but I bet tomorrow being Easter Sunday affects things.

I believe what he’s getting at is a lot of those 150 delta departures are on regional partners.

Alexander12 04-17-2022 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by Myfingershurt (Post 3407212)
I believe what he’s getting at is a lot of those 150 delta departures are on regional partners.

In that case BOS base seems more likely with the regionals dying


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