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20Fathoms 04-06-2022 09:52 PM

Flight Ops Hears Us
 
Just got the latest update to my inbox. Florida IROPS have been tough but we’ve out-performed our peers. We’ve reached out to flight ops with our concerns and what we’ve overwhelmingly said is “how can we help?”

Not “we’re going on 3 years without a contract.” Not “We’re getting shellacked by inflation and you’ve given raises to literally everyone but us.” Nope it’s “How can we help?”

The only call I’ve made to the company in the last month was to say “I’m fatigued.” Oh well Potato, Potado. At least they hear us.:rolleyes:

Snapdragon 04-07-2022 12:41 AM

“Comprehensive summer preparedness plan”
That’s some funny stuff right there


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PilotWombat 04-07-2022 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by Snapdragon (Post 3401790)
“Comprehensive summer preparedness plan”
That’s some funny stuff right there

That includes smart changes to rotation construction that allow for easy recovery, minimal disruptions to passengers, and keeping pilots on their scheduled rotations, right? Things like widening turn times for both crews and aircraft, keeping pilots, FA's, and aircraft together the whole day, having all overnights be >14 hrs to allow for adequate rest as well as flex when things inevitably go sideways so that one issue doesn't carry on through multiple days? All of this increases planned credit, but that's the cost of having a reliable schedule and happy crews, right?




....right?

BNUT 04-07-2022 05:13 AM

Begs the question (from my feeble brain at least) of could a Central Florida pilot base potentially alleviate some of the constraints that exist and will only get worse in the Florida market: weather, limited hotel rooms, airspace? Is the primary driver of a base only number of departures?

freezingflyboy 04-07-2022 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by PilotWombat (Post 3401869)
That includes smart changes to rotation construction that allow for easy recovery, minimal disruptions to passengers, and keeping pilots on their scheduled rotations, right? Things like widening turn times for both crews and aircraft, keeping pilots, FA's, and aircraft together the whole day, having all overnights be >14 hrs to allow for adequate rest as well as flex when things inevitably go sideways so that one issue doesn't carry on through multiple days? All of this increases planned credit, but that's the cost of having a reliable schedule and happy crews, right?




....right?

How dare you dredge up the past and suggest we go back to "the way it used to be" in 2018/2019 when we were kicking the industry's butt in both reliability and profitability!

Please remember the prime directives: no flight attendant union and no credit for pilots. Resistance is futile.

3 green 04-07-2022 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by Snapdragon (Post 3401790)
“Comprehensive summer preparedness plan”
That’s some funny stuff right there


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That plan includes reroutes. Telling the pilots how great they are and how they appreciate us. Also, hang in there, we are going to address the problems that have been going on for 2-3 years..:D

Viking busdvr 04-07-2022 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3401879)
That plan includes reroutes. Telling the pilots how great they are and how they appreciate us. Also, hang in there, we are going to get you that new contract that you all richly deserve in 2-3 years..:D

fify…. Which is nice..

JustNarced 04-08-2022 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3401879)
That plan includes reroutes. Telling the pilots how great they are and how they appreciate us. Also, hang in there, we are going to address the problems that have been going on for 2-3 years..:D

Scheduled max duty days, airport sits/standby to get you there, extensions to get you back to base so you can get home. Minimal time without positive contact. More duty hours, same pay.

JustNarced 04-08-2022 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by BNUT (Post 3401876)
Begs the question (from my feeble brain at least) of could a Central Florida pilot base potentially alleviate some of the constraints that exist and will only get worse in the Florida market: weather, limited hotel rooms, airspace? Is the primary driver of a base only number of departures?

Believe it or not, no. It has more to do with controlling LEC votes than actual hotels. FL is one of our largest markets and they once closed an MCO base. They closed a DFW base during BK, many argue it was over the MEC chair who lived there. That made ATL the largest base and we all know there is something special about that place.

nene 04-08-2022 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by BNUT (Post 3401876)
Begs the question (from my feeble brain at least) of could a Central Florida pilot base potentially alleviate some of the constraints that exist and will only get worse in the Florida market: weather, limited hotel rooms, airspace? Is the primary driver of a base only number of departures?

I was thinking the same thing this weekend as an A321 diverted to PBI and flight crew timed out with last arrival to PBI canceled. Imagine if you had a small MCO base staffed with the right variety of BES's, in a pinch you could with a 3hr drive cover stranded flights in at least 8+ FL airports served by mainline.


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