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Old 05-25-2022 | 05:59 PM
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i know.

just outta curiosity…what’s the charge? Failure to work for a publicly traded company?

…and at what point am I allowed to quit?
Failure to work on your days off…
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Old 05-25-2022 | 06:54 PM
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Alaska pilots have a lot more leverage than Delta pilots when it comes to the negotiating process and the chance of being released into a cooling off period and an eventual strike. Not because Alaska pilots are smarter or more united, but because the NMB would allow Alaska pilots to strike whereas they would NOT allow Delta pilots to strike.
Following a strike vote at my regional airline with similar results, we were not released to strike. And we were about 1/4 the size of Alaska. It’s not about actually striking. It’s about sending a message, and the public perception of booking tickets on Alaska when there’s no pilots to fly.

Spirit did it, and it was successful. After spirit we were not released to strike at my last shop.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BCan
i know.

just outta curiosity…what’s the charge? Failure to work for a publicly traded company?

…and at what point am I allowed to quit?
If employees engage in illegal work action, a carrier may seek injunctive relief with a federal court. The court can then issue and injunction against the illegal work action. Failure to comply with such an injunction can result in parties and individuals being found in contempt of court.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
It’s about sending a message, and the public perception of booking tickets on Alaska when there’s no pilots to fly.
Again…this right here is the point. The layman has no idea what the RLA is.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
If employees engage in illegal work action, a carrier may seek injunctive relief with a federal court. The court can then issue and injunction against the illegal work action. Failure to comply with such an injunction can result in parties and individuals being found in contempt of court.
cool.

then I quit

it’s a dumb argument.

I cannot be forced to work for Delta, period.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BCan
cool.

then I quit

it’s a dumb argument.

I cannot be forced to work for Delta, period.
It's not a dumb argument. It's caselaw. You asked a question and I answered it.

Yes, you can quit your employment whenever you want...that's your choice.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DALFA
It's not a dumb argument. It's caselaw. You asked a question and I answered it.

Yes, you can quit your employment whenever you want...that's your choice.

I’m not familiar with the case where 14000 pilots are arrested for violating a federal injunction…I’ll dig deeper.

I’m now scared straight…I just ordered a backup hat to make sure I don’t run afoul of Delta and go to jail.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BCan
I’m not familiar with the case where 14000 pilots are arrested for violating a federal injunction…I’ll dig deeper.
You probably aren't going to get arrested but the Court can award significant fines for violating its order(s). The American Airlines pilots/APA got handed a $46M fine for violating a judge's order by continuing to bang in sick.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
You probably aren't going to get arrested but the Court can award significant fines for violating its order(s). The American Airlines pilots/APA got handed a $46M fine for violating a judge's order by continuing to bang in sick.
agreed and familiar.

You could also be fired.

Your chances of going to jail - zero.

If we want to speak in reality, by the time an injunction was issued…the damage would already be done with no winners.
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Old 05-25-2022 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
Following a strike vote at my regional airline with similar results, we were not released to strike. And we were about 1/4 the size of Alaska. It’s not about actually striking. It’s about sending a message, and the public perception of booking tickets on Alaska when there’s no pilots to fly.

Spirit did it, and it was successful. After spirit we were not released to strike at my last shop.
Tonight as pax were deplaning one of them asked us if Alaska was going on strike, so the general public at least has some sense that Alaska could be a risky bet.
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