Alaska Strike Vote
05-25-2022 | 08:34 PM
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It's happened before. The only reason the chances of Delta pilots going to jail is zero is because the chances of the NMB releasing Delta pilots from negotiations is also zero.
Btw: A company could receive an emergency injunction in a matter of hours.
"If labor does not respond promptly to an injunction, the carrier's only legal recourse is to seek contempt penalties from the court...Contempt penalties may be in the form of compensatory fines for the plaintiff carrier, criminal fines, or incarceration to vindicate the authority of the court." - Hastings Law Journal
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05-25-2022 | 08:35 PM
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I'm not familiar with a case where 14000 pilots violated a federal injunction so it's kind of difficult to find a case where 14000 pilots were arrested if 14000 pilots have never violated a federal injunction.
05-25-2022 | 10:48 PM
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and a significant source of supplies to areas that you can't drive to. There is much more reason to stop a strike by them than us.
05-25-2022 | 11:46 PM
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Some of You guys are missing the bigger picture. This will make it MUCH harder for AS to get NHs onboard, not to mention ALPA reps will probably help, especially FOs get their apps out elsewhere combined w preferential interviews at legacies.
Plentyyyy of leverage without actually needing to strike. Doubly so in this unprecedented hiring environment.
Plentyyyy of leverage without actually needing to strike. Doubly so in this unprecedented hiring environment.
05-26-2022 | 04:15 AM
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What he said above. It's not necessarily about going on strike as it is messaging to the public. If the public thinks there is a chance of a strike (they don't understand RLA), they'll think twice about booking on Alaska...that alone generates leverage.
05-26-2022 | 04:50 AM
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Some of You guys are missing the bigger picture. This will make it MUCH harder for AS to get NHs onboard, not to mention ALPA reps will probably help, especially FOs get their apps out elsewhere combined w preferential interviews at legacies.
Plentyyyy of leverage without actually needing to strike. Doubly so in this unprecedented hiring environment.
Plentyyyy of leverage without actually needing to strike. Doubly so in this unprecedented hiring environment.
05-26-2022 | 05:46 AM
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How far apart are labor and management at Alaska?
Post consolidation, this tactic has only been effective in a limited number of circumstances. It has to be the end game in mediation, usually after several years of working with the NMB. For this to work, the mediator must feel confident that the pilot union is more committed to reaching an agreement than their counterparts on the management side. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, it’s my understanding that the two parties have only been in mediation since January, which looks like a fairly heavy rhetorical lift.
The Alaska pilots are lagging the industry in compensation, and earn about $19 less per hour than pilots at Delta.
Post consolidation, this tactic has only been effective in a limited number of circumstances. It has to be the end game in mediation, usually after several years of working with the NMB. For this to work, the mediator must feel confident that the pilot union is more committed to reaching an agreement than their counterparts on the management side. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, it’s my understanding that the two parties have only been in mediation since January, which looks like a fairly heavy rhetorical lift.
The Alaska pilots are lagging the industry in compensation, and earn about $19 less per hour than pilots at Delta.
05-26-2022 | 05:56 AM
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For this reason alone, there needs to be a "statement" from ALPA/DALPA that we can refer the customers to. I can't imagine 14k different responses would do anything to further our case.
05-26-2022 | 06:26 AM
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I fully understand it. I am explaining why all this talk about never being released even if Alaska is makes no sense. We may be big, but we don't shut the country down if we stop flying. Alaska is one of the only ways into and out of some places q
and a significant source of supplies to areas that you can't drive to. There is much more reason to stop a strike by them than us.
and a significant source of supplies to areas that you can't drive to. There is much more reason to stop a strike by them than us.
05-26-2022 | 06:47 AM
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We operate roughly 20% of domestic flights. If we stop flying it would cripple interstate commerce which is why the RLA was created in the first place. A few small communities losing air service due to a strike doesn't cripple interstate commerce. Sure, it negatively impacts those small communities but the RLA and NMB don't look at that. They look at the overall picture. If what you are saying was true then no regional airline would ever be allowed to go on strike and obviously we all know that's not the case.
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