lolol. I was having a good day until I read this

 

You may not care but the topic came up...again in this thread. Posting the dates that FAs got raises isn't complaining or comparing. If someone posts that FAs just got a 50% pay raise and I reply and say that it isn't true...is it not beneficial to those reading to know what the facts actually are or would it be better to just believe anything that anyone posts and run with it?

 

JFC these threads go too long

 

Didn't DALPA negotiate a "me too" with all the non-contract employees at Delta with the last contract where Delta pilots actually got a raise because of what non-contract employees received? I didn't see you complain about that "me too" at all.

As far your actual claim...it's pretty common for unions to negotiate a "me too" with the other work groups at their carrier. This isn't just AFA but rather something every union does...including ALPA.

 

You didn't see the pilots complaining about that "me to" because we did not get a pay raise from the non-con pay raise!

What you are referring to is in PWA 3.B.4

When DL gives an across the board pay raise to its US based non pilots, a review of the pilot pay is triggered.

It uses the highest pay rate for the 757 and compares it to the highest pay rates of the 757 at UAL and AAL. If the DL rate is less than 100% of the average of the UAL/AAL rates then the DL rate is raised.

But it is raised the lesser of a) the % required to match the AAL/UAL average rate or b) the % raise that was given to the non-pilots,

When the FA's got the 4% raise, the review was triggered but because AAL and UAL 757 rates have been static for many years just like ours, then no pay raise for the pilots because our 757 rates is higher than the AAL/UAL avearge.

DL could give a 100% pay raise to all the non-cons, and the pilots still wouldn't get a raise becuase our average 757 rate is > than AAL/UAL.

 

I believe the middle initial is "H." 😁

 

Where do the facts place the raise that was received in exchange for a temporary drop in profit sharing, that was temporary due to the pilots not selling it, in the “even amount of raises” list?

 

I listed that raise on the list I posted. You should also notice that the following year we didn't receive any raise.

 

Except the PS formula being put back the way it was….

 

That's common knowledge. I didn't realize I had to point it out. What isn't common knowledge is the dates that FAs have received pay increases over the past 10 years which was the purpose of my post.