My god you are thin skinned. It’s becoming obvious to everybody on here that you are the one who is still mentally held up on the merger. All those NW guys living rent free in your mind, lol.

 

The “Jacket Off” campaign starts tomorrow!

 

We had a merger?

 

Why would they be living rent free in my head? I stayed within 1% relative seniority and the merged airline was much stronger.

My point was simply, a guy comes on here with an entertaining story from 40 years ago and acts like no changes in pilot behavior would have occurred "but for" the 3 he listed. The pilot in his story was prolly ex-Vietnam vintage. Times were different 40 years ago. It's an "evolutionary" process where his 3 factors of change no doubt had an effect, however, I could list at least 10 things that were prolly more instrumental than the 3 he mentioned.

Maybe you ought to ??? who is living rent free in your head

BTW.... his story was amusing, it just had a logic flaw that wasn't necessary unless one wants to play identity politics. ie ALL Delta pilots parochial, archaic, uptight Dicks that only got the nod from a troubled psychiatrist and that could only be saved by other fresh blood via merger

 

The Deltoid classics were uptight about the uniform. I was at a DCI carrier and when we got leather jackets, I would ride the combined employee bus and here it prior to every trip. You would have thought we were single handedly destroying the brand especially during bankruptcy. One guy dressed as a US Air pilot for halloween and the picture went around, most thought it funny. The Deltoids lost their sh!t.

 

I think hats will unofficially be optional from here on out. Seems to be 50/50 on whether pilots even like wearing them. The world will keep spinning and delta will keep making money.

The thing of it is that our u-boat commander jackets look funny without a hat.

 

Towards the end, NWA got rid of the hats and we got leather jackets. They were really pretty nice and worked quite well up in the frigid north. Zip in lining so you could tweak it for cold or MSP cold. No velcro or other crap, so once you took the epaulets off, it was just a normal jacket you could wear on an overnight, so no need to pack another coat. Wiped clean with a damp rag and otherwise required zero maintenance. The "official" vendor was Gibson and Barnes, and they were really well made. Of course, pilots being pilots, some went for a cheap option (some vendor in India), and they didn't look that great (my opinion, but hey whatever).

Given that most people say they're pragmatic, and that the jackets were the more practical option, the folks that didn't like the jackets for one reason or another had other things going on. "Hmmmm, I'm presented with a really practical option that works in 95% of the cases, versus a coat that looks like it came from a 1940s movie, winkles, looks like sh!t, and doesn't really keep me warm, plus I need to drag another coat along for a layover because I don't want to look like a creep...but I'm going with the later because....I don't want to "look like an RJ pilot".

 

Good luck with that

 

Much like saying Chicago Black….. hawks. Enunciation is key make sure to get the “et” on jacket, or that could be a HR issue. I’m going with “no contract, no coat” to avoid confusion.

 

Funny story. The FO I just flew with had been rerouted on a previous trip. As part of the reroute the FO flew with an ATL captain. Said captain told the FO to put the hat on. The FO put the hat on. The captain said if the FO hadn’t had the hat he would have had him removed from the flight. When the FO returned to base he shared the story with the union rep. They were not surprised by the name of the ATL captain. My bet is he’s a “no” vote.