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Old 11-04-2022 | 10:50 AM
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In light of all the people completely ecstatic we have lost the PSC I have decided to vote down any contract which provides improvements to our medical coverage and does not contain PSC. Reason being I utilized the PSC commute but do not utilize Delta’s medical. I know I’m not the only one who doesn’t use the Delta medical.

Now I know this is going to draw a lot of hate, but I want it to be stated, it’s as ridiculous as people saying the end of the LOA was a good thing.

Opinions? Am I wrong? Seems to make sense to me…


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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:08 AM
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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:10 AM
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I get what you are saying…but plenty of us use both PSC and medical insurance.

lets just focus on getting a great contract that helps as many pilots as possible (including those who commute, who happen to be in the majority)
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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:12 AM
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Positive space communing going away is a good thing. It subverts seniority for us when we are heading out on vacation. Travel benefits are really important to many people and positive space commuting makes it harder to plan (due to last minute bookings) and offers junior people seats that our seniority should have held.

I don't care what you vote for. We all have our priorities but it seems rather short sighted of you to be a one issue voter.

Seniority is sacred and should be upheld and respected at every opportunity.

Not that any of this will change your mind.
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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Airfix
Positive space communing going away is a good thing. It subverts seniority for us when we are heading out on vacation. Travel benefits are really important to many people and positive space commuting makes it harder to plan (due to last minute bookings) and offers junior people seats that our seniority should have held.

I don't care what you vote for. We all have our priorities but it seems rather short sighted of you to be a one issue voter.

Seniority is sacred and should be upheld and respected at every opportunity.

Not that any of this will change your mind.
I hope you get bounced off your next nonrev vacation travel by a junior guy going to work that the company just gave the last seat to as per the call in honest policy. I’d say 99% of commuters booked their commutes weeks in advance with the PSC in place. Seems that would give you a better idea of what the loads were actually gonna look like. If the company needs those commuters in place they’re still gonna get the seats that you thought you were entitled to with your precious seniority and you’ll still be sitting at the gate watching the plane push without you on it. Bye Felicia.
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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:19 AM
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Cool story. I don’t commute, but I use the Delta medical. I’ll vote yes. We will cancel each other out.
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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Airfix
Positive space communing going away is a good thing. It subverts seniority for us when we are heading out on vacation. Travel benefits are really important to many people and positive space commuting makes it harder to plan (due to last minute bookings) and offers junior people seats that our seniority should have held.

I don't care what you vote for. We all have our priorities but it seems rather short sighted of you to be a one issue voter.

Seniority is sacred and should be upheld and respected at every opportunity.

Not that any of this will change your mind.

It’s a good thing? I’ve already had more GS call outs this month than all of last month combined. WX hasn’t really been a factor. My guess if UTC/sick calls are on the rise.

Honestly I’m not a one issue voter but I’m merely pointing out the fact a ton of people are ok with one but not the other.

The fact you are comparing your ability to non-rev to my ability to get to work is ridiculous. If you just happened to be booked for my second flight and get bumped because of my call in honest, you would be frustrated. Now imagine my seat is already booked, PS, now you have a more accurate representation of where you sit in line to get a seat. Tell me how I’m short sighted again?


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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
I hope you get bounced off your next nonrev vacation travel by a junior guy going to work that the company just gave the last seat to as per the call in honest policy. I’d say 99% of commuters booked their commutes weeks in advance with the PSC in place. Seems that would give you a better idea of what the loads were actually gonna look like. If the company needs those commuters in place they’re still gonna get the seats that you thought you were entitled to with your precious seniority and you’ll still be sitting at the gate watching the plane push without you on it. Bye Felicia.
If it works just fine as it is right now why do we need to change it? It makes no difference according to you. Those commuters will get there anyway and I'll get bumped.

I hope you reread your post and feel ashamed of your tone.
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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
I’d say 99% of commuters booked their commutes weeks in advance with the PSC in place. Seems that would give you a better idea of what the loads were actually gonna look like.
Certainly pre-booking numbers were high. No way they were 99% though, especially not considering flight attendants, a-days, reserves, OOBWD, GS, reroutes, 23k, personal travel preceding work, etc.

It’s okay to acknowledge that almost every policy we have on the books hurts some while it helps others. That will always be the case.
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Old 11-04-2022 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bode
In light of all the people completely ecstatic we have lost the PSC I have decided to vote down any contract which provides improvements to our medical coverage and does not contain PSC. Reason being I utilized the PSC commute but do not utilize Delta’s medical. I know I’m not the only one who doesn’t use the Delta medical.

Now I know this is going to draw a lot of hate, but I want it to be stated, it’s as ridiculous as people saying the end of the LOA was a good thing.

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