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11-11-2022 | 05:47 AM

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Boatbuilder

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

UAL may be very close to a contract. Management made significant movement on work rules and moved a 5% raise due late Spring to next month.

UAL management is negotiating via the media. All 3 majors are taking a wait and see attitude, so nothing is getting done. Nobody wants to go first, so nobody goes.

11-11-2022 | 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DETSports

Any word on the negotiation sessions this week? Maybe just maybe there will be some more urgency to get a deal done.

lol keep dreaming with this management team. They are in no hurry

11-11-2022 | 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nantonaku

What do you mean pick a high time 5 day trip? I don’t think IVD and APD pay the way you think. They are both great for getting time off but they aren’t great for pay.

If you bid the right trip and use 4 pb days they are great for pay. Drop the IVD on a day with less than 3 hours of credit and you actually make more $.

11-11-2022 | 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ebl14

If you bid the right trip and use 4 pb days they are great for pay. Drop the IVD on a day with less than 3 hours of credit and you actually make more $.

Gotcha, didn’t catch the PB part.

11-11-2022 | 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DETSports

Any word on the negotiation sessions this week? Maybe just maybe there will be some more urgency to get a deal done.

they only negotiate Tuesday-Thursday as the other days are spent commuting offsite to negotiate. This will be going into next year unless the company wants to get serious. Still many open sections to get through, DH for instance is parked.

Folks need to lay off the rumor mill and settle in for awhile.

11-11-2022 | 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooter432

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This indee.

I’m just hunkering down and building my war chest. Should be shopping for a Nomex suit to compliment my torch.

11-11-2022 | 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zippinbye

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This indee.

I’m just hunkering down and building my war chest. Should be shopping for a Nomex suit to compliment my torch.

same here. I get the info from communicating with reps. Despite what co. propaganda errr I mean communications are sent out , we aren’t on the cusp of a deal …yet. There appears to be a disconnected reality from what the company tells us and what progress (little ) is actually happening at the table. This leads to this frenzy of rumors and assumptions.

11-11-2022 | 09:23 AM

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Payback days aren't a problem for the company unless this staffing model is the new normal. Hmmm.

11-11-2022 | 09:30 AM

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I don't believe Deadhead is or any other section is parked currently.

11-11-2022 | 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 24Whiskey

Fun fact: EDV ALPA happily signed away any control of the reserve grid when they signed the 150% WS LOA. The day it went into effect (early 2016ish?) was basically the last day a pilot was able to drop a trip.

1.9% of 150% WS gets MEC Chairmen elected to ALPA National. ALPA can't tax QOL at all...