Nonstop Negotiations
11-09-2022 | 11:37 AM
#201
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Except the company is doing the paying so…it is an increase. I get that it’s not for the whole group. As someone who lives in base, has a flexible schedule, and picks up GS when I feel like it, I’d be more than happy to see them go away completely, sit at home and fly 1-2 trips a month like I used to. Without PB days though, I won’t pick up GS and if they keep using reserves as a normal means to cover open time, I won’t keep doing that either.
11-09-2022 | 11:38 AM
#202
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I’d love to hear his “grown-up” solution to communicate his displeasure to the company and method for displaying pilot group unity within the constraints of the RLA. My guess is it looks a whole lot like deafening silence.
Yeah. The lanyards are juvenile. Yeah. They violate the FOM. And they’re one of the only legal avenues we have to show our unity and displeasure. If it’s stupid and it works, it isn’t stupid.
Yeah. The lanyards are juvenile. Yeah. They violate the FOM. And they’re one of the only legal avenues we have to show our unity and displeasure. If it’s stupid and it works, it isn’t stupid.
11-09-2022 | 12:32 PM
#204
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From: Sitting SC at the Five Towns
I've read them. I don't want to waste my APD or IVD's trying to cash in PB days.
11-09-2022 | 12:39 PM
#207
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As someone already replied, that is not the majority of this airline. Especially since a majority of the fleets at this airline you will work anyways. So not sure what fleets you are bidding reserve and getting all this time off.
11-09-2022 | 12:41 PM
#208
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This thread has helped me understand PB days and how pilots are utilizing them a lot better. I can see why the company would be targeting them in negotiations. It’s a section of the contract I have never utilized, but I now see the value of PB days even for me. I can now see altering the reserve GS system will cause a No vote from me.
While this thread might look like negotiating in public it has helped me determine the value of a contract section I’ve never used, but have unknowingly benefitted from. Sometimes having a discussion of the sections various pilots hold dear is very important.
Prior to learning more about PB days, I would have viewed them as fairly inconsequential. Now I see any alternation as a poison pill in the contract.
While this thread might look like negotiating in public it has helped me determine the value of a contract section I’ve never used, but have unknowingly benefitted from. Sometimes having a discussion of the sections various pilots hold dear is very important.
Prior to learning more about PB days, I would have viewed them as fairly inconsequential. Now I see any alternation as a poison pill in the contract.
In SLC reserve goes relatively senior which allows junior pilots a chance at a line.
Ditching PD hurts everyone.
11-09-2022 | 12:56 PM
#209
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From: 717a
There was a time early in my stint here that a GS was a very rare event. Maybe over a major holiday by the top 5% in category. A full month of flying was 72-75 hours and yet captains could buy a new car with a 15th of the month paycheck. No games, no putting oneself on “reserve”. Great $$ AND quality of life.
11-09-2022 | 12:57 PM
#210
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The 220 category is a bit of an odd culture. Most of the captains are junior and very thankful for the quick upgrade. A bit full of themselves and reluctant to bite the hand that fed them. Also "servant leadership" is strongly espoused to their LCAs and that culture definitely trickles down. They seem to think they're a little bit smarter, cleaner, and holier than the others. The 220 culture very much reminds me of the culture back at SkyWest.
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