Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Hack for those dim A320 screens >

Hack for those dim A320 screens

Search

Notices

Hack for those dim A320 screens

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-12-2023 | 02:39 PM
  #1  
UGBSM's Avatar
Thread Starter
FlySmarterNotHarder
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 596
Likes: 1
From: fifi flyer
Default Hack for those dim A320 screens

For all those hard to see dim CRT flight displays on our ancient A320s I saw this hack on sky hub yesterday. Use your iPad camera to look at the screens... GENIUS! And possibly highly unauthorized?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Hack for Dim A320 screens.jpg (18.1 KB, 1138 views)
Reply
Old 01-12-2023 | 03:14 PM
  #2  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 203
Likes: 6
Default

Hopefully the cockpits are upgraded soon.
Reply
Old 01-12-2023 | 03:32 PM
  #3  
crazyjaydawg's Avatar
Line Holder
10M Airline Miles
15 Years
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 41
From: Middle Seat
Default

Lol! Someone actually posted that on Skynet? SMH, the sooner that thing gets shut down the better if you ask me.
Reply
Old 01-12-2023 | 05:14 PM
  #4  
FangsF15's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,418
Likes: 1,467
Default

Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag
Hopefully the cockpits are upgraded soon.
They are. But it’s because the CRT’s aren’t made anymore, not because it’s a safety/usability issue. There are a few other upgrades that will go along with the CRT’s - supposedly including the WX radar. The problem with installing LCD screens is the analog screen cables will either need a converter (one vendor has that built into the screen), or a rewire of the cockpit.

The timeline is still pre-decisional. It may be as fast as 5 ships per month, but it will still take years to retrofit them all.
Reply
Old 01-12-2023 | 07:05 PM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 2,253
Likes: 111
Default

Originally Posted by FangsF15
They are. But it’s because the CRT’s aren’t made anymore, not because it’s a safety/usability issue. There are a few other upgrades that will go along with the CRT’s - supposedly including the WX radar. The problem with installing LCD screens is the analog screen cables will either need a converter (one vendor has that built into the screen), or a rewire of the cockpit.

The timeline is still pre-decisional. It may be as fast as 5 ships per month, but it will still take years to retrofit them all.
I was flying a G4 when they went from "OLD" CRT's to LCD's and their solution was to put the LCD on the front of a long slide in empty box with lead weight at the other end and a plug so the whole new "LCD" slid right into the old CRT slot and with the dead weight at the end even didn't require a weight and balance change.

They woulda made for amazing smuggling spaces as well if that was what you were trying to do.
Reply
Old 01-13-2023 | 06:38 AM
  #6  
UGBSM's Avatar
Thread Starter
FlySmarterNotHarder
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 596
Likes: 1
From: fifi flyer
Default

Originally Posted by FangsF15
They are. But it’s because the CRT’s aren’t made anymore, not because it’s a safety/usability issue. ...
It absolutely IS a safety/usability issue. That's the whole point of the hack. Anyone who has flown our old CRT display A320s on a bright sunny day trying to maneuver around thunderstorms or perhaps respond to a TA/RA knows this is a problem. You look outside at the white clouds or search for traffic and then when you come back inside you can't see a thing on the PFD or ND because they are too dim. I've heard, anecdotally, maintenance has been restricting our ability to brighten the display by dimming them internally to preserve them because, as you say, they don't make them anymore and so it's become a parts issue. But make no mistake, it is most definitely a usability issue and maybe even a safety issue as well. IMO.
Reply
Old 01-13-2023 | 06:50 AM
  #7  
FangsF15's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,418
Likes: 1,467
Default

Originally Posted by UGBSM
It absolutely IS a safety/usability issue. That's the whole point of the hack. Anyone who has flown our old CRT display A320s on a bright sunny day trying to maneuver around thunderstorms or perhaps respond to a TA/RA knows this is a problem. You look outside at the white clouds or search for traffic and then when you come back inside you can't see a thing on the PFD or ND because they are too dim. I've heard, anecdotally, maintenance has been restricting our ability to brighten the display by dimming them internally to preserve them because, as you say, they don't make them anymore and so it's become a parts issue. But make no mistake, it is most definitely a usability issue and maybe even a safety issue as well. IMO.
Oh, I totally, completely agree with you. I was just stating the reason the company is finally doing something about it was parts availability, not because they see it as a problem otherwise.

Maybe poorly worded on my part. I could have also added a scarcasm emoji…

Last edited by FangsF15; 01-13-2023 at 07:02 AM.
Reply
Old 01-13-2023 | 05:03 PM
  #8  
crazyjaydawg's Avatar
Line Holder
10M Airline Miles
15 Years
50 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,286
Likes: 41
From: Middle Seat
Default

I have also seen the CRTs getting written up more often. I think the screens are getting worse, and with multiple write-ups planes are getting grounded. The company’s hand is getting forced.
Reply
Old 01-14-2023 | 04:05 AM
  #9  
notEnuf's Avatar
Racketeer
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,414
Likes: 886
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Default

Wow, I never flew a bus but the fact that there's a hack proves there's a problem.
Reply
Old 01-16-2023 | 11:40 AM
  #10  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 261
Likes: 9
Default

Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
I have also seen the CRTs getting written up more often. I think the screens are getting worse, and with multiple write-ups planes are getting grounded. The company’s hand is getting forced.
Getting grounded? I flew one the other day and let me paraphrase the write-up I saw from the previous crew:

"All PFD/ND displays extremely dim. Dangerously dim. Cannot see the screens in daylight. We had to respond to an RA and couldn't see the screen. DANGEROUS!"
"Performed ops check per blah blah blah, no discrepancies noted, okay for service."

... So I doubt any of them are grounded. Although maybe we should refuse the jet when we step to one with a previous writeup like that.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Martin404
United
476
04-07-2018 03:24 PM
APC225
United
154
07-13-2012 02:53 PM
Gman
Major
34
04-12-2007 08:43 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices