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Vsop 08-05-2023 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3678477)
I'll trade you Georgia fans.

Pretty much any fanatic is obnoxious Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Green Bay, Philly…. If someone can go a whole week wearing nothing but their favorite team’s gear and never duplicate an outfit, it’s time to reconsider their life choices.

JamesBond 08-05-2023 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Vsop (Post 3678487)
Pretty much any fanatic is obnoxious Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Green Bay, Philly…. If someone can go a whole week wearing nothing but their favorite team’s gear and never duplicate an outfit, it’s time to reconsider their life choices.

Well that's a little harsh. 😂

Vsop 08-05-2023 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3678511)
Well that's a little harsh. 😂

maybe, but I’ll stand by it. Great news for anyone that wants to up their fan wardrobe. There’s a sale on shoes, belts, hats, ect.

fanatics.com

disclaimer I am in no way promoting that website or purchasing a TCU underwear :D

DWC CAP10 USAF 08-05-2023 04:08 PM

M+ required a 69 slide deck of CQ for training, then required 6-9 weeks of fumbling around in the app for OJT, and then a FAQ put out by the EFB team listing best practices and work arounds (day/night).

OakNotes was made by a line pilot and was intuitive to use right out the gate....not distance learning, no FAQ, no work arounds....it was simple and it worked.

Timbo 08-05-2023 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3678571)
M+ required a 69 slide deck of CQ for training, then required 6-9 weeks of fumbling around in the app for OJT, and then a FAQ put out by the EFB team listing best practices and work arounds (day/night).

OakNotes was made by a line pilot and was intuitive to use right out the gate....not distance learning, no FAQ, no work arounds....it was simple and it worked.

Yeahbut we can’t possibly have a real line pilot design our flight plans! Ed might have to PAY HIM!

Come on Man! All those dip sticks on the 4th floor need non-flying job too! Let a male FA design our iPad apps!

They know what we need!

Oh, and if you hate M+, you’re going to hate the A350 flight planning, which is basically the same crap!

slowyourroll 08-05-2023 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Vsop (Post 3678487)
Pretty much any fanatic is obnoxious Alabama, Texas, Michigan, Green Bay, Philly…. If someone can go a whole week wearing nothing but their favorite team’s gear and never duplicate an outfit, it’s time to reconsider their life choices.

I get your point but Philly fans are in their own category. One summer I hit every National League park and the only place I’d never go back was Philly.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=5098407

OOfff 08-05-2023 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by slowyourroll (Post 3678625)
I get your point but Philly fans are in their own category. One summer I hit every National League park and the only place I’d never go back was Philly.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=5098407

don’t forget when they booed Santa Claus, or threw batteries at players

Trip7 08-06-2023 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3678571)
M+ required a 69 slide deck of CQ for training, then required 6-9 weeks of fumbling around in the app for OJT, and then a FAQ put out by the EFB team listing best practices and work arounds (day/night).

OakNotes was made by a line pilot and was intuitive to use right out the gate....not distance learning, no FAQ, no work arounds....it was simple and it worked.

All Oaknotes did was pull information from Mission+. There is no way for Delta safety systems to track transfer and more importantly, make sure the transfer is sending valid information. The Home page of Mission+ is highly customizable. It can be coded to look like Oak Notes and everyone will be happy.

Lots of good changes coming to Mission+ in the update next month

DWC CAP10 USAF 08-06-2023 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3678770)
All Oaknotes did was pull information from Mission+. There is no way for Delta safety systems to track transfer and more importantly, make sure the transfer is sending valid information. The Home page of Mission+ is highly customizable. It can be coded to look like Oak Notes and everyone will be happy.

Lots of good changes coming to Mission+ in the update next month


And put in a useable display that was intuitive out the gate and didn't require 69 pages of CQ to "learn"

JB made a shortcut that pulled date from M+ and generated something that looks just like the HTML with hyperlinks.

The shortcut is literally searching M+ and copy/pasting data, just displaying it in a much more user friendly UI....it's not rocket surgery.

The fact that M+ needed a day/night work around in Version 1 is in-excusable for a Fortune 100 company in this day and age and speaks volumes

FangsF15 08-06-2023 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3678770)
All Oaknotes did was pull information from Mission+. There is no way for Delta safety systems to track transfer and more importantly, make sure the transfer is sending valid information. The Home page of Mission+ is highly customizable. It can be coded to look like Oak Notes and everyone will be happy.

Lots of good changes coming to Mission+ in the update next month

Lawyers are why we can't have nice things... While I can cognitively understand the concern/rationale by the company that the FAA might have over Oaknotes, I'm not buying it. All kinds of pilots make hand written notes every leg. Sometimes on a semi-cusotmized template of thier own making. Why is that not considered the same "transfer of [questionably] valid information".

But it's a moo point. We have no control. Hopefully, the company and ALPA can convince Navblue to customize M+ to emulate Oaknotes. What I heard from the townhall was that the next update was mostly backend and bug fixes. The cosmetic overhaul changes will come closer to the end of the year.


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