Statement to Delta MEC
03-11-2023 | 07:19 PM
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Min Day Pay, Sit Pay, Vacation Pay, Training pay, Short Call pay, ADG carve out Pay, Increase to Unverified sick lookback, 18 hour long call, staffing formula and reserve required improvements. All in place by this summer.
Don’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative. MOU23-01 is available for review at the end of the contract.
Don’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative. MOU23-01 is available for review at the end of the contract.
03-11-2023 | 07:35 PM
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Min Day Pay, Sit Pay, Vacation Pay, Training pay, Short Call pay, ADG carve out Pay, Increase to Unverified sick lookback, 18 hour long call, staffing formula and reserve required improvements. All in place by this summer.
Don’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative. MOU23-01 is available for review at the end of the contract.
Don’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative. MOU23-01 is available for review at the end of the contract.
03-12-2023 | 01:53 AM
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This. I purposely bid a reserve sked with a consistent pattern of three days on/four days off the majority of the month, and with most of my on-call blocks being only 3 days in length, combined with an 18hr leash, i wonder will I work even less than I already do and maybe just get tagged with a few more SC's?
03-12-2023 | 03:30 AM
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03-12-2023 | 03:43 AM
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“Most of the soft pay gains that will either make QoL better or enrichen us do not go into effect until after another red hot summer.”
I was demonstrating that most (not all) of the soft pay gains will, in fact, be in place for the summer. No matter how many times people try to say otherwise, the lions share of items that will drive increased pay do start before the summer.
There are certainly other items which are deferred, but the OP mentioned specifically that “soft pay gains” didn’t kick in until after summer, which just isn’t true.
03-12-2023 | 06:07 AM
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No argument there, but the OP stated:
“Most of the soft pay gains that will either make QoL better or enrichen us do not go into effect until after another red hot summer.”
I was demonstrating that most (not all) of the soft pay gains will, in fact, be in place for the summer. No matter how many times people try to say otherwise, the lions share of items that will drive increased pay do start before the summer.
There are certainly other items which are deferred, but the OP mentioned specifically that “soft pay gains” didn’t kick in until after summer, which just isn’t true.
“Most of the soft pay gains that will either make QoL better or enrichen us do not go into effect until after another red hot summer.”
I was demonstrating that most (not all) of the soft pay gains will, in fact, be in place for the summer. No matter how many times people try to say otherwise, the lions share of items that will drive increased pay do start before the summer.
There are certainly other items which are deferred, but the OP mentioned specifically that “soft pay gains” didn’t kick in until after summer, which just isn’t true.
) summer. Most of the changes prior are penalty pay not actual schedule improvements.
03-12-2023 | 06:26 AM
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That's moving the goalposts. Also, the penalty pay items were designed to improve schedule quality in the optimizer.
03-12-2023 | 07:06 AM
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How is restating the facts of the MOU moving goalposts? And let's hope there aren't design flaws, but either way we won't really find out until we have June 2024 under our belts, that's 16 months.
03-12-2023 | 07:44 AM
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Saying that the pay rigs don't start along with qol items was where it started. Saying the pay rigs that are designed to be QOL items don't count is very much moving goal posts.
03-12-2023 | 07:55 AM
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This. I purposely bid a reserve sked with a consistent pattern of three days on/four days off the majority of the month, and with most of my on-call blocks being only 3 days in length, combined with an 18hr leash, i wonder will I work even less than I already do and maybe just get tagged with a few more SC's?
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