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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:13 AM
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Fascinating discussion,

To me, the "brand" argument falls flat when you remember the majority of consumers would easily mistake us for a bell hop.

You want brand image? Make sure your uniform fits (however many breasts), shine your shoes, look and act like a professional. I can tell you that I have a much easier time doing that in a modern single breasted jacket than a 1930s horse blanket.

To each their own, I guess that's why they are giving us the option.
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
AndTo what end?
You could ask that about anything.

Retirement pillar? To what end? I saved for retirement, too bad the deadzoners didn’t.

Professionalism? To what end? As long as I’m stable by 1,000’ and land in the touch down zone.

Courtesy? To what end? We’re not family and I don’t personally gain from being nice to you.

Uniforms? To what end? Nobody cares.

Teamwork and loyalty? To what end? Extract as much profit from the company as possible.

I hope you can sense the sarcasm. In the end, it’s fellow employees that make this job great or make it suck. You can choose who you’re going to be. Pretty much true everywhere. The sad thing is, people pretty much only care about themselves and don’t give a **** about fellow Delta employees.

I flew with a captain like you once. Bithched me out for filling out the menu request before him. “This used to be a captain’s airline!” Everything was about him. Set a good tone for the future of Delta.

What was the name of that truck driving school? I think I’m gonna need that.
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PW123B
I can tell you that I have a much easier time doing that in a modern single breasted jacket than a 1930s horse blanket.
You do know the other single breasted airlines are hiring, right? Does SWA even have a blazer? Did you not know what you were getting into when you started with Delta?
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
You do know the other single breasted airlines are hiring, right? Does SWA even have a blazer? Did you not know what you were getting into when you started with Delta?
Yikes. I'll wear a tootoo if they require it. Just telling you my opinion, brother.
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
You do know the other single breasted airlines are hiring, right? Does SWA even have a blazer? Did you not know what you were getting into when you started with Delta?
I didn't go to Delta because of what uniform they wore. It was literally completely irrelevant to my decision. And now that I'm here, I realize how impractical they are and how ridiculous and stuffy we look as compared to literally every other professional pilot. I can want change and support a change without doing something as dumb as you're suggesting
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
You could ask that about anything.

Retirement pillar? To what end? I saved for retirement, too bad the deadzoners didn’t.

Professionalism? To what end? As long as I’m stable by 1,000’ and land in the touch down zone.

Courtesy? To what end? We’re not family and I don’t personally gain from being nice to you.

Uniforms? To what end? Nobody cares.

Teamwork and loyalty? To what end? Extract as much profit from the company as possible.

I hope you can sense the sarcasm. In the end, it’s fellow employees that make this job great or make it suck. You can choose who you’re going to be. Pretty much true everywhere. The sad thing is, people pretty much only care about themselves and don’t give a **** about fellow Delta employees.

I flew with a captain like you once. Bithched me out for filling out the menu request before him. “This used to be a captain’s airline!” Everything was about him. Set a good tone for the future of Delta.

What was the name of that truck driving school? I think I’m gonna need that.

​​​​​​What a prick. He must've been an Atlanta. Thankfully, I'm pretty sure we don't have CAs like that in NYC. And the special ones are few and far between. But nowhere as bad as this specimen.
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
You do know the other single breasted airlines are hiring, right? Does SWA even have a blazer? Did you not know what you were getting into when you started with Delta?
Embrace change. You'll live longer.

Now, if we can just do beards next.
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Were you in the Noord lobby this week, too?
Multiple times actually.
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Old 03-11-2023 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PW123B
Yikes. I'll wear a tootoo if they require it. Just telling you my opinion, brother.
Sorry, man. Just venting a bit.

Flew with a captain this week that not only didn’t wear a hat or blazer (flew with him before and no blazer), but also didn’t wear a tie. Complained he hadn’t gotten his second GS yet this month (it’s 3/11!).

I specifically applied here because the employees made this a special place to be. Our customers noticed and that’s how we got to be the best compensated. After 9 years here, I’ve realized that’s all pretty much gone now. No one gives a ****. It’s all about them.

Yeah, I’m a guy who still shines my shoes before I go to work.
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Old 03-11-2023 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Sorry, man. Just venting a bit.

Flew with a captain this week that not only didn’t wear a hat or blazer (flew with him before and no blazer), but also didn’t wear a tie. Complained he hadn’t gotten his second GS yet this month (it’s 3/11!).

I specifically applied here because the employees made this a special place to be. Our customers noticed and that’s how we got to be the best compensated. After 9 years here, I’ve realized that’s all pretty much gone now. No one gives a ****. It’s all about them.

Yeah, I’m a guy who still shines my shoes before I go to work.
Why does it matter if he wasn't wearing a blazer this week?
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