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Iceberg 04-16-2023 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux (Post 3625083)
I clicked it.

It made me want to punch the voice. Annoying AF.

“Punchable voice” is now a thing in redux world.

I may have to click the questionable link now to find out what a punchable voice sounds like.

notEnuf 04-16-2023 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3623637)
With a very conservative forward P/E of ten and estimated earnings of $5 share, that puts the stock around $50, conservatively. I have given up on it dipping back into the twenties. I figure all the insider trading was the exec team cashing out stock awards to pay taxes. Could see $120 share on the next bull run.

My .02, DYODD

I don't see it breaking 40 until the debt ratings becomes investment grade again. Previous high value was mid 60s with much less debt. I think 120 is definitely achievable in 5 years.

notEnuf 04-16-2023 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Broncos (Post 3623928)
No you won't. Delta's trading policy does not allow trading DAL with options.

My wife does all my her Delta trades.

notEnuf 04-16-2023 03:26 PM

Loss was due to one time payment to pilots, which is not a loss for our PTIX. (X) being the key. $72M PS accrual in Q1.

m3113n1a1 04-16-2023 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3625140)
Loss was due to one time payment to pilots, which is not a loss for our PTIX. (X) being the key. $72M PS accrual in Q1.

Which is 72 million greater than last year Q1 :D

Hillbilly 04-17-2023 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3625138)
My wife does all my her Delta trades.

Unfortunately, the policy includes the statement:

As a reminder, these restrictions on all prohibited transactions also apply to family members and others who live in the households of those persons or whom they support (such as children in college).

DYODD

notEnuf 04-18-2023 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 3625413)
Unfortunately, the policy includes the statement:

As a reminder, these restrictions on all prohibited transactions also apply to family members and others who live in the households of those persons or whom they support (such as children in college).

DYODD

It was a joke. My lack of emoji is my bad. However, enforcing that on my employment would be challenging for Delta. She doesn’t need to communicate her investment decisions with me. Swim at your own risk.

Buck Rogers 04-18-2023 06:17 AM

We all know what the letter of the law(restriction) says, consequently don't trade. However, that being said, a little rational thought might be warranted. They obviously don't want folks who work in in revenue management front running trades(insider info). They also don't want someone with really deep pockets (or a group of people) making a concerted push to buy up controlling interest. (Speaking out of me ole 'arse here but......) If I remember correctly, when Delta was going down the tubes(circa 2004) and the stock price had tanked, it was said that if ALL the Delta pilots ponied up 20K they could buy > 51% of the company and then have considerable influence over how things would progress going into a possible bankruptcy.(This may be inaccurate and somebody can /will correct me if I'm wrong). But essentially all I'm saying is they are trying to stop nefarious/debilitating stock trading, resulting in a blanket restriction.

BTW.....(not that it makes it right or legitimizes it) but I traded DAL stock in all kinds of accounts(not 401) ......and never lost a second of sleep over it. I put it into the realm of the speed limit is 45mph and you are going 47. Are you violating the speed limit? Absolutely. Do I worry about it? Hmm....You make the call for yourself.

BTWx2... I also remember Delta "investing " my 401 company contribution into Delta stock(preferred??) at $60/share(no avenue for employee to sell)..... and they rode it down to roughly $1/share before the sold to "preserve my investment :confused::mad::eek:. That was great fiduciary responsibility on their part ! Maybe that ,in conjunction with the pilot buyout possibility above, led to the current restriction.

OOfff 04-18-2023 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3625764)
We all know what the letter of the law(restriction) says, consequently don't trade. However, that being said, a little rational thought might be warranted. They obviously don't want folks who work in in revenue management front running trades(insider info). They also don't want someone with really deep pockets (or a group of people) making a concerted push to buy up controlling interest. (Speaking out of me ole 'arse here but......) If I remember correctly, when Delta was going down the tubes(circa 2004) and the stock price had tanked, it was said that if ALL the Delta pilots ponied up 20K they could buy > 51% of the company and then have considerable influence over how things would progress going into a possible bankruptcy.(This may be inaccurate and somebody can /will correct me if I'm wrong). But essentially all I'm saying is they are trying to stop nefarious/debilitating stock trading, resulting in a blanket restriction.

BTW.....(not that it makes it right or legitimizes it) but I traded DAL stock in all kinds of accounts(not 401) ......and never lost a second of sleep over it. I put it into the realm of the speed limit is 45mph and you are going 47. Are you violating the speed limit? Absolutely. Do I worry about it? Hmm....You make the call for yourself.

BTWx2... I also remember Delta "investing " my 401 company contribution into Delta stock(preferred??) at $60/share(no avenue for employee to sell)..... and they rode it down to roughly $1/share before the sold to "preserve my investment :confused::mad::eek:. That was great fiduciary responsibility on their part ! Maybe that ,in conjunction with the pilot buyout possibility above, led to the current restriction.

buying and selling delta stock is not prohibited, though. You were going 44 in a 45.

ZeeWulfeh 04-18-2023 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3625767)
buying and selling delta stock is not prohibited, though. You were going 44 in a 45.

Delta does even have a stock purchase option on Fidelity for auto-deduction from pay. So yeah, trading stock isn't prohibited.


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