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bender 05-09-2023 05:09 PM

IA Calls
 
Does anyone else keep getting IA calls for trips that have already been covered?

freezingflyboy 05-09-2023 05:57 PM

I got a couple over the last weekend. I'm usually pretty quick on the draw too to see what the trip is.

Gulfasaurus 05-09-2023 06:08 PM

Been happening a lot these past couple of days. The timestamp on the robocall is usually between 5 and 20 minutes earlier than the time my phone rang. It's frustrating when it's for a rotation that I was eying and willing to fly. By the time I got connected to a scheduler they were already gone, assuming they were still showing on MiCrew to begin with. Some to junior pilots as would be the correct order, but recently several were already awarded to pilots thousands of numbers senior to be before I got any kind of call, and that is making me scratch my head. Oh BTW, had Greenslips in for all those days and never got an ARCOS call either.

myrkridia 05-09-2023 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by bender (Post 3634639)
Does anyone else keep getting IA calls for trips that have already been covered?

How can you tell what trip you are being called for? I don't even get a voicemail anymore.

Whoopsmybad 05-09-2023 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Gulfasaurus (Post 3634655)
Been happening a lot these past couple of days. The timestamp on the robocall is usually between 5 and 20 minutes earlier than the time my phone rang. It's frustrating when it's for a rotation that I was eying and willing to fly. By the time I got connected to a scheduler they were already gone, assuming they were still showing on MiCrew to begin with. Some to junior pilots as would be the correct order, but recently several were already awarded to pilots thousands of numbers senior to be before I got any kind of call, and that is making me scratch my head. Oh BTW, had Greenslips in for all those days and never got an ARCOS call either.

Ive had ones go well senior to me before my phone rang. I checked the time stamp, and filed an Ace.

For the IA calls that you get that never come in as a GS, please submit an ACE. It helps us in the grievance process. And will get someone paid.

Gspeed 05-10-2023 04:30 AM

Keep in mind that you won’t get an IA call if you’re a reserve on a golden day off.

waldo135 05-10-2023 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Gulfasaurus (Post 3634655)
Been happening a lot these past couple of days. The timestamp on the robocall is usually between 5 and 20 minutes earlier than the time my phone rang. It's frustrating when it's for a rotation that I was eying and willing to fly. By the time I got connected to a scheduler they were already gone, assuming they were still showing on MiCrew to begin with. Some to junior pilots as would be the correct order, but recently several were already awarded to pilots thousands of numbers senior to be before I got any kind of call, and that is making me scratch my head. Oh BTW, had Greenslips in for all those days and never got an ARCOS call either.

While an IA is supposed to be awarded in inverse seniority, in reality, the robocall goes out and it’s first come first awarded.

3 green 05-10-2023 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3634710)
Ive had ones go well senior to me before my phone rang. I checked the time stamp, and filed an Ace.

For the IA calls that you get that never come in as a GS, please submit an ACE. It helps us in the grievance process. And will get someone paid.

Watch for scheduling to write in the remarks section of a rotation..."first one to call back." That means someone called scheduling to grab an IA before they even called anyone.

Bucking Bar 05-10-2023 01:15 PM

Caught one the other day at 2 pm that was created at noon’ish. CS did not even run it. They were going to IA rather than even try. Asked them to run it and it went to a very senior pilot almost instantly. Gave the guy a call and he said “thanks but no thanks. Now I have to fly it.” He preferred to be skipped. He sits and collects pay for all kinds of IA. Figure the top 5 to 10 on the list are getting boatloads of single pay. A trip a day the way the IA are flowing.

Can not imagine the $$ the company is wasting.

Would make better sense to just cover trips in seniority order.

I would like to get rid of the proffer in cases where we WS or GS by specific rotation number. If we auto accept, auto acknowledge; why sick around with ARCOS?

m3113n1a1 05-10-2023 03:00 PM

Honestly we should just get rid of batch sizes.. if you don't want to be disturbed during your sleep put your phone on do not disturb or block ARCOS' number.

Ideally we'd have the technology to choose within ARCOS like "only call if less than 5 senior pilots to me eligible for trip" and it doesn't call you until this is met and adjusts in real time as senior pilots deny the trip.

But we'll never have that ability, so I say just get rid of batch sizes and manage your settings as necessary.


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