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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
(Post 3635048)
Company had three options:
a) tells network to pound sand when they try to push a schedule Flt Ops know they can't fly. 2) if not a, then staff the company to execute said schedule d) neither a or 2 |
Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 3635098)
I love it, you gave the A, 2, and D….what movie was that from? Home Alone I think?
Buzz McCallister: No, for three reasons: A. I'm not that lucky, 2. we use smoke detectors, and D. we live on the most boring street in the whole United States of America, where nothing even remotely dangerous will ever happen. Period. |
Originally Posted by Xray678
(Post 3635090)
during the day (and we can argue about what timeframe the should be) I don’t see a downside to unlimited batch sizes.
Just like the old days when we functioned just fine with phone calls, when the company reaches out to me I want to know there’s a good chance I can have the offered work. |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3634996)
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But we'll never have that ability, so I say just get rid of batch sizes and manage your settings as necessary. The old system where they called one by one worked fine. If they called you, it was yours if you wanted it. If they were tight on time they didn't hold it for 10 mins. When you talked to them you could wheel and deal on a 1 by 1 basis for hotels or pos space. We don't need "batch sizes" at all, but some added functionality on the user's end to better screen. As of now the old way is vastly superior for everything except fantasy bare bones scheduler staffing, and that's not our concern. Well worth the 3 cents in PS we don't get. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 3635163)
I agree. The false angst over "only call me if I'll probably get it" creates an unmanageable scenario for the system when things are busy. It also causes more ppl to put in fake GS blanket requests for everything when they really only want the perfect trip.
. There’s no false angst on my end. We all know one beauty of this job is leaving it a work. We can’t do that now without sacrificing the premium pay our seniority should afford us. If the company put a few hours of effort into modernizing the green slip and white slip entry process they could eliminate a ton of drag for the system. Seeing as how they already underpay schedulers and understaff all departments for IROPs, though, they’ve shown they have no wisdom about where to invest for actual savings and efficiency and seem not to care that we regularly implode in flight ops. I don’t need a perfect trip, but when the company is offering so much premium pay to offset their poor planning and mismanagement, folks can and do get picky. They also stop flying extra at straight pay, which exacerbates the mess. Like almost every other problem - this one is on the company, not the pilots. I don’t choose to cede my own QOL even a little to fix problems they cause and won’t rectify themselves. |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 3635129)
I don’t know if you’re in the minority or the majority, but many of us don’t want incessant calls and notifications all day every day simply because the company is incompetent with their operation. We also don’t want to miss opportunities to actually fly a green slip we deem worthwhile.
Just like the old days when we functioned just fine with phone calls, when the company reaches out to me I want to know there’s a good chance I can have the offered work. That kind of incompetence and total disregard for crew members is why we need batch sizes. I agree we might need to go to percentage based or more dynamic sizes based on time to report. I shouldn't have to turn my phone off when I'm ready and willing to fly because they are incapable of not nuisance calling 50 pilots. We did not make this staffing 'situation', let's not talk concessions to fix their self-induced crunch. |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 3635188)
I didn’t ask for GS to be proffers, the company did that.
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Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 3635129)
I don’t know if you’re in the minority or the majority, but many of us don’t want incessant calls and notifications all day every day simply because the company is incompetent with their operation. We also don’t want to miss opportunities to actually fly a green slip we deem worthwhile.
Just like the old days when we functioned just fine with phone calls, when the company reaches out to me I want to know there’s a good chance I can have the offered work. |
The old system where they called one by one worked fine. If they called you, it was yours We don't need "batch sizes" at all, but some added functionality on the user's end to better screen. As of now the old way is vastly superior for everything except fantasy bare bones scheduler staffing, and that's not our concern. Well worth the 3 cents in PS we don't get. |
Originally Posted by Xray678
(Post 3635195)
The current situation encourages the company to use 23m, and also encourages the losers who call in fishing for trips.
Simple solution. 1. IAs must always be tied to a robocall with a control number associated with it. 2. Pilots cannot call scheduling unsolicited to volunteer their IA services. 3. Pilots must provide the robocall control number when making the call to scheduling, otherwise the conversation ends before it starts. Is that too hard a concept? What am I missing here? |
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