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Old 07-30-2023 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
Also, there's the possibility of reroutes becoming less common with how expensive they are about to get.

Is it going to get that expensive? I'll be the first to admit that I think our reroute pay is just magic and hope for the best. But after a recent reroute, my FO and I wondered how it would pay with the new rules. We probably missed something, but under the new rules, we calculated we'd have actually gotten less pay.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Is it going to get that expensive? I'll be the first to admit that I think our reroute pay is just magic and hope for the best. But after a recent reroute, my FO and I wondered how it would pay with the new rules. We probably missed something, but under the new rules, we calculated we'd have actually gotten less pay.
You still get reroute pay under the old rules as well if it applies I thought.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
You still get reroute pay under the old rules as well if it applies I thought.
I believe 23.L. 4 note is gone next month but rest of it stays
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Is it going to get that expensive? I'll be the first to admit that I think our reroute pay is just magic and hope for the best. But after a recent reroute, my FO and I wondered how it would pay with the new rules. We probably missed something, but under the new rules, we calculated we'd have actually gotten less pay.
Not sure how, reference 23.L.4 and Negotiator notepad on section 23. Any reroute pay on first day, as well as any subsequent day, is paid above rotation guarantee.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanker1497
Not sure how, reference 23.L.4 and Negotiator notepad on section 23. Any reroute pay on first day, as well as any subsequent day, is paid above rotation guarantee.

Ya, I'm sure we missed something. We read the pwa and are not lawyers, so you can understand our confusion lol. I'll take another look at the notepad.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Ya, I'm sure we missed something. We read the pwa and are not lawyers, so you can understand our confusion lol. I'll take another look at the notepad.
I hear ya on the language! Quick example of new reroute goodness. 4 day worth 21:00. Rerouted day 3, fly one leg at 2 hours block. Day 4 you fly one leg home at 2 hours block. Day 3 pays one hour above guarantee, day 4 pays two. Trip now pays 24:00. Could go higher if you return to base more than 4 hours after planned block in.
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Old 07-31-2023 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Is it going to get that expensive? I'll be the first to admit that I think our reroute pay is just magic and hope for the best. But after a recent reroute, my FO and I wondered how it would pay with the new rules. We probably missed something, but under the new rules, we calculated we'd have actually gotten less pay.
You're still entitled to rotation guarantee as a REG line holder. There's no way you could be paid less.
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Old 07-31-2023 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Ya, I'm sure we missed something. We read the pwa and are not lawyers, so you can understand our confusion lol. I'll take another look at the notepad.
From the NNA pilot who is rerouted beyond the time limitation in Section 23 L. 8. or 9. will, in addition, receive single pay, no credit for each duty period that extends beyond the applicable time limitation.

This new C2019 pay provision under Section 23 L. 4. replaces the existing Section 23 L. 4. Note (as it appeared previously in C2015).
It should be noted that reroute pay due underSection23 L. 4. and reroute pay underSection23 L. 8. or 9. operate separately, and such pay may be received for one and/or the other as the situation warrants. When they are received together, the values are additive (i.e., they stack).
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Old 07-31-2023 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DELTAFO
You're still entitled to rotation guarantee as a REG line holder. There's no way you could be paid less.
*paid less than under previous reroute language. The 50% over on day one is less than the 5:15 previously paid under certain circumstances (trip being extended by a day comes to mind)
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Old 07-31-2023 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DELTAFO
You're still entitled to rotation guarantee as a REG line holder. There's no way you could be paid less.
Think he meant less than old reroute rules.
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