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08-15-2023 | 08:44 AM

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tennisguru

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Originally Posted by OOfff

I feel like there are more than a few 2-5 hour flights from ATL

As I said above, any flights of those length out of ATL probably warrant a plane with more than 110/130 seats.

08-15-2023 | 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

As I said above, any flights of those length out of ATL probably warrant a plane with more than 110/130 seats.

*vaguely gestures toward the a319 doing 2-5 hour flights out of atl*

08-15-2023 | 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OOfff

*vaguely gestures toward the a319 doing 2-5 hour flights out of atl*

I've been told by people that are probably in the know, that it's because we essentially have a monopoly on Atlanta, so we don't need the 220's efficiency there since there's no competition.

That explanation makes more sense than any other I've heard. The 220's efficiency lends itself to competitive markets. Engine start time having any effect is silly.

08-15-2023 | 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 170Till5

Are Green Slip opportunities in NYC common for the 220? Any comparison to the 320/737

I’ve been called for a GS every day this week and I have starts and ends with deadhead limitation.

08-15-2023 | 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Khantahr

I kind of get that reasoning, but I’m stuck on something. If a 220 is going to fly 5 hours and a 319 is going to fly 5 hours, does it really matter what location the fuel is saved at? I guess cost of fuel at an individual airport could play into that, but for this it would only matter if ATL was cheap vs all other destinations. Am I missing something?

08-16-2023 | 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by EyeKantEven

I'm curious why?

Can you tell us?

I'm on different metal but this week I'm being deadheaded from the west coast to ATL just to fly 1 short turn, then deadheading back to the west coast.

What's going on over there?

08-16-2023 | 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceberg

I kind of get that reasoning, but I’m stuck on something. If a 220 is going to fly 5 hours and a 319 is going to fly 5 hours, does it really matter what location the fuel is saved at? I guess cost of fuel at an individual airport could play into that, but for this it would only matter if ATL was cheap vs all other destinations. Am I missing something?

You've deduced the answer. There are no state taxes on jet fuel in Georgia. Ignore the politics and just read the part about fuel tax.

https://airlineweekly.com/2021/04/de...w-retribution/

08-16-2023 | 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceberg

We’ll there’s also the staffing part of the equation. How many long/thing routes out of ATL does the 319 operate? If you did start running 220s on those few routes you’d open up a can of worms by needing to run NYC or other bases crews through there to cover the flying with no immediate reserves available. With the Airbus however you’ve got tons of pilots in base minutes from the airport ready to cover a broken rotation via WS or GS. On the 717 a lot of the cancellations occur on flights from MSP simply because it is difficult to DH in pilots with short notice. So it makes sense to not dilute ATL 319 flying with the 220.

08-16-2023 | 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

...poor food choices with long lines and terrible service.

Ahhhh.... the unique customer service that only Atlanna-tude can provide!

You mean hearing "nex' guessin' liiiiiion!" doesn't warm your heart?

08-16-2023 | 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter

You've deduced the answer. There are no state taxes on jet fuel in Georgia. Ignore the politics and just read the part about fuel tax.

https://airlineweekly.com/2021/04/de...w-retribution/

Thanks

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