The Chinese electric car isn’t the US electric car.

“Wuling Mini EV” - sells in China for about $4,500. No, I didn’t forget a “0”. New electric car under $5k.

Plenty of China developed EV’s for under $10k.

Of course, you can’t purchase these in the US. Heck, with the tax coupon, the government would be paying you to take delivery.

Lots of directions this can go and stick to the sprit of the OP. Starting with “Why can’t I use the tax credit from US Gov to buy one of these for my kid as a starter car?”

The Wuling is built in partnership with GMC. Ask yourself why you can’t easily purchase one of these EV utilitarian vehicles when the rock bottom cheapest brand new gas car available in America is currently $1800+?

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/l...-electric-cars

https://www.wired.com/story/review-w...guang-mini-ev/

(Yeah, the China one is a POS. I’ve had lean years making <$20k/yr with no transport and took the bus; I’d have killed for a <$5k car).

 

What I love to see are the VPP initiatives in Texas. We need to find a way to capture excess energy from wind and solar and store it for when it's needed in the most efficient way possible. Some near zero loss solutions I've heard are repurposing old mines to turn them into giant mechanical batteries and the same concept using hydro. There's no reason why every house shouldn't have solar panels on the roof.

 

In reply to my own insightful and interesting post:

At the very least, a sub $5,000 car would destroy the US gas automobile market overnight, crash the power grid in 3 months, and make the current road system in major cites undriveable due to saturation, and China would eat our economic lunch.

Imagine a repeat of the Covid years when Long Beach had 100+ ships in harbor unable to be offloaded full of all the cripe Americans need.

Only now full of cars, not TP.

(We can’t all live like Peach Tree City golf cart enthusiasts).

 

Agree wholeheartedly. It has to be practical and economical... the it won't need to be mandated, much.

Probably safe timeline. There are couple potential paradigm changers in the works, especially involving field reversed configuration output. Kind of Hail Mary-ish but if it pans out, the world will change fast and possibly sooner than expected. In addition to clean power, such a thing could provide essentially unlimited power at low cost.

 

False. Fake news.

Just like any other product, once it becomes an equal or less expensive alternative, it will be open for mass adoption. And no, the government didn't create aviation (contrary to what the PHAK says).

 

Assuming this is true, so what? Temps, like the stock market, rise and fall. Also it was a lot hotter before recorded history too.

It's a bit more subtle than that, but 98% of scientists agree with whoever is funding them.

HA HA HA HA HA..... tell me... what is the optimal level of carbon that the planet needs?

Also, you are confusing pollution with carbon. This may not be your fault though because the climate propagandists confuse and muddle the two on purpose.

The climate is only an issue because the propaganda tells people that it's an issue. Climate is naturally dynamic, not static. It's constantly changing.

Well on that we agree.

 

I don't believe that. I could be wrong, but that just doesn't sound right. Also, fixed vs variable costs.

 

Transmission/distribution does cost more than generation today.

Some of that is artificial since the T/D is sort of a fixed cost, and some generation has shifted from power plants to on-site solar. So the T/D cost stays the same unless the infrastructure is slowly down-gauged over time. But then we consider EV's... unless most future EV's can be charged via on-site solar, we're actually going to need *more* T/D.

That's for current generation... fusion generation could probably be very local, as it's not hazardous and should scale down pretty small. So the transmission would probably not even be required, and local distribution could be adapted to local fusion generation, possibly a lot of it on-site. Plus on-site solar.

Large wind and solar farms might die on the vine, due to transmission costs. But that depends on the ultimate cost of fusion generation.... won't be free due to the need for gucci hardware, but should be infinitely scalable.

 

All due respect to you. Exxon has not been able to dump their waste straight into the river for half a century. Shell has had scrubbers on their plants for half a century. True for the US and other first would countries.

 

lol ok, the conspiracy has run so deep that the people that record the temps are now in on it. And 98% of scientists have no institutional integrity and are willing to sacrifice their entire lifes work for money.

do you even listen to yourself? The logic test has not been passed, i award you zero points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

Look, im not advocating gutting our economy, im not advocating clean energy etc…..but ignoring reality as it comes stomping through the room to fulfill your political extremist agenda is lunacy. maybe go take an earth science class on the carbon cycle dude, this isnt rocket surgery.