Peak Gas In China
08-31-2023 | 01:44 PM
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Tell me you don't know anything about the history of commercial aviation without telling me.
08-31-2023 | 01:45 PM
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08-31-2023 | 02:40 PM
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The Chinese electric car isn’t the US electric car.
“Wuling Mini EV” - sells in China for about $4,500. No, I didn’t forget a “0”. New electric car under $5k.
Plenty of China developed EV’s for under $10k.
Of course, you can’t purchase these in the US. Heck, with the tax coupon, the government would be paying you to take delivery.
Lots of directions this can go and stick to the sprit of the OP. Starting with “Why can’t I use the tax credit from US Gov to buy one of these for my kid as a starter car?”
The Wuling is built in partnership with GMC. Ask yourself why you can’t easily purchase one of these EV utilitarian vehicles when the rock bottom cheapest brand new gas car available in America is currently $1800+?
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/l...-electric-cars
https://www.wired.com/story/review-w...guang-mini-ev/
(Yeah, the China one is a POS. I’ve had lean years making <$20k/yr with no transport and took the bus; I’d have killed for a <$5k car).
“Wuling Mini EV” - sells in China for about $4,500. No, I didn’t forget a “0”. New electric car under $5k.
Plenty of China developed EV’s for under $10k.
Of course, you can’t purchase these in the US. Heck, with the tax coupon, the government would be paying you to take delivery.
Lots of directions this can go and stick to the sprit of the OP. Starting with “Why can’t I use the tax credit from US Gov to buy one of these for my kid as a starter car?”
The Wuling is built in partnership with GMC. Ask yourself why you can’t easily purchase one of these EV utilitarian vehicles when the rock bottom cheapest brand new gas car available in America is currently $1800+?
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/l...-electric-cars
https://www.wired.com/story/review-w...guang-mini-ev/
(Yeah, the China one is a POS. I’ve had lean years making <$20k/yr with no transport and took the bus; I’d have killed for a <$5k car).
First, they were about $13,000, but the government subsidized about $8,200 per car… I know, still cheap
Second, they were built by people making only a few dollars an hour (don’t you talk about a living wage in one of your other posts?), you’re paying $13,000 so someone else can barely get by
Third, they only got about 62 miles to a charge when new, and have mostly been abandoned. If you add cleanup and disposal, I wonder what the true cost will be, even at the few dollar an hour rate.
These are cars built as recently as 2021. Just because your Nerd Wallet article is 2023, don’t believe that much has changed beyond cosmetics.
Here is a Bloomberg article on it, lest you accuse me of spouting oil company propaganda.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2...ev-graveyards/
08-31-2023 | 04:04 PM
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It cuts into their profits to do things cleaner and safer for everyone around them. No one wants to build a new refinery because it effects their bottom line. When profit is the only goal, everything else suffers.
Greed is only doing things for profit despite the consequences. We did that for a while. The Cayuga River in Cleveland literally caught on fire.
08-31-2023 | 05:09 PM
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And there are lots of scientists that understand climate change hasn't proven to be caused by manmade activity.
08-31-2023 | 05:20 PM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
You don't get funded or published by going against the ones funding and publishing you. Common sense 101.
And there are lots of scientists that understand climate change hasn't proven to be caused by manmade activity.
You don't get funded or published by going against the ones funding and publishing you. Common sense 101.
And there are lots of scientists that understand climate change hasn't proven to be caused by manmade activity.
please provide a credible, peer reviewed, published scientific paper that supports your second statement.
this became a political football because……money. Big oil lobbied hard in the 2000s, and here we are. Its sad to see people who can’t separate church from state and execute critical thinking.
08-31-2023 | 05:30 PM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
You don't get funded or published by going against the ones funding and publishing you. Common sense 101.
And there are lots of scientists that understand climate change hasn't proven to be caused by manmade activity.
You don't get funded or published by going against the ones funding and publishing you. Common sense 101.
And there are lots of scientists that understand climate change hasn't proven to be caused by manmade activity.
08-31-2023 | 06:28 PM
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That's my point. It wasn't done out of the kindness of their hearts. Governmental regulations forced them.
It cuts into their profits to do things cleaner and safer for everyone around them. No one wants to build a new refinery because it effects their bottom line. When profit is the only goal, everything else suffers.
Greed is only doing things for profit despite the consequences. We did that for a while. The Cayuga River in Cleveland literally caught on fire.
It cuts into their profits to do things cleaner and safer for everyone around them. No one wants to build a new refinery because it effects their bottom line. When profit is the only goal, everything else suffers.
Greed is only doing things for profit despite the consequences. We did that for a while. The Cayuga River in Cleveland literally caught on fire.
08-31-2023 | 06:36 PM
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