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11-13-2023, 12:21 PM
#331
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
The FAA does not govern flying in the military and part 91 flying has always had less regulation.
the FAA would not allow southwest to qualify pilots to fly the 737-300 and 737 max 8 at the same time, and that’s the same type rating.
the 727 and A320 are about as far apart as any 2 western jet airliners. Glass vs steam gauges, 3 cockpit crew vs 2, wildly different levels of automation, the list goes on. So yes it’s a crazy concept to me the FAA would be ok with 1 person being qualified to be a captain on both at the same time. not to mention also being qualified as an FO on a third aircraft that is completely different than the two mentioned above.
the FAA would not allow southwest to qualify pilots to fly the 737-300 and 737 max 8 at the same time, and that’s the same type rating.
the 727 and A320 are about as far apart as any 2 western jet airliners. Glass vs steam gauges, 3 cockpit crew vs 2, wildly different levels of automation, the list goes on. So yes it’s a crazy concept to me the FAA would be ok with 1 person being qualified to be a captain on both at the same time. not to mention also being qualified as an FO on a third aircraft that is completely different than the two mentioned above.
it helps the more different the planes are. I imagine it would be confusing to fly a kc-46 and be 765.
11-13-2023, 12:26 PM
#332
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Originally Posted by Flyweight
I have done that same thing with ancient mil/121. It takes work to be sharp at both and I will never be , but it’s doable. Like have a cheat sheet and review the differences you mix up before each swap.
11-13-2023, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I can understand it being doable with the right amount of effort. I’m just shocked the FAA allowed it, especially that recently.
11-13-2023, 12:38 PM
#334
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I can understand it being doable with the right amount of effort. I’m just shocked the FAA allowed it, especially that recently.
Doing several types here would be fatiguing for sure compared to normal.
11-13-2023, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Sounds kinda fun for bidding variety though.. Bored of flying one leg to Amsterdam and back? Go fly a few 717 four days next month!
I definitely would not want to try and stay proficient on 3 or more types though.
11-13-2023, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
yeah If it was optional I could see lots of pilots wanting to dual qual as a WB B and NB A. I would probably do that too.
I definitely would not want to try and stay proficient on 3 or more types though.
I definitely would not want to try and stay proficient on 3 or more types though.
11-13-2023, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
320 A and 330 B sounds pretty nice, actually. Alas...
* I’m excluding the ER and -400 because the FAA already allows it, i think we just don’t want to deal with the training headache and CBA ramifications of combining the two types.
11-13-2023, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
it’s different now and is part of why we have a vastly better safety record in 121 than 135 or the military
Damn, why you have to always be bagging on the mil folks here.??
11-13-2023, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Sounds kinda fun for bidding variety though.. Bored of flying one leg to Amsterdam and back? Go fly a few 717 four days next month!
11-13-2023, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
You're not flying at 100agl and 580 knots, at night, blacked out on night vision doing TFR in about 0/0 weather in mountainous terrain in 121 either now are you? So my brother told me they did when he was flying F-111 and F-15E. We do vanilla **** compared to them.
Damn, why you have to always be bagging on the mil folks here.??
Damn, why you have to always be bagging on the mil folks here.??
In prior decades and the prior century mil safety when they flew 111s is a different discussion.
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