Originally Posted by crewdawg

Another reason to bid for specific trips. PBS will actaully grab a trip off a senior persons line to give you the trip you ask for, as long as it can still fulfill the senior persons bid. As an example, lets say two bidders want a 4-day with a layover in Denver because they both want to attend one of the nights of a the week long furry convention. However, you (the junior pilot) really want to be there for the Thursday night furry drag show. You look through the bid packet and see that rotation 0069 is a 4 day that has a 30 hr layover in DEN on the Thursday, so you add a line "award if pairing number 0069." The senior bidder simply puts in a "award if layover in DEN if 4-day during furry convention."

As PBS runs through the award process, it gives rotation 0069 to the senior bidder because it fulfills all the requirements of his bids. When PBS gets to your line, it sees you want rotation 0069 and there is still another 4 day with a Den overnight left in the pot. As long as the other 4-day fulfills all the senior bidders requests, PBS will pull 0069 off his line and slap it onto your line, then award him the other 4-day.

I'm not sure how often that will happen, but as Billy Ray Valentine said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Originally Posted by Iceberg

This is the best explanation I’ve ever seen.

Originally Posted by crewdawg

Another reason to bid for specific trips. PBS will actaully grab a trip off a senior persons line to give you the trip you ask for, as long as it can still fulfill the senior persons bid. As an example, lets say two bidders want a 4-day with a layover in Denver because they both want to attend one of the nights of a the week long furry convention. However, you (the junior pilot) really want to be there for the Thursday night furry drag show. You look through the bid packet and see that rotation 0069 is a 4 day that has a 30 hr layover in DEN on the Thursday, so you add a line "award if pairing number 0069." The senior bidder simply puts in a "award if layover in DEN if 4-day during furry convention."

As PBS runs through the award process, it gives rotation 0069 to the senior bidder because it fulfills all the requirements of his bids. When PBS gets to your line, it sees you want rotation 0069 and there is still another 4 day with a Den overnight left in the pot. As long as the other 4-day fulfills all the senior bidders requests, PBS will pull 0069 off his line and slap it onto your line, then award him the other 4-day.

I'm not sure how often that will happen, but as Billy Ray Valentine said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw

I just want to point out that telling someone to go read a book isn't "teaching". And we do far too much telling people to go read books here. A large portion of our IQ is now self taught, and sim events have become more like evaluations or hurdles to progress through. It shouldn't be that way. We used to have actual classroom instruction and lengthy briefings/debriefings where they taught you stuff. Ever since "done by one", the briefings have become a half hearted read through of slides and what you should have self taught, the sim is "show us you studied and know the material" and the "debrief" is a few minutes of filling out paperwork and either telling you great job, or telling you that you didnt study enough, with an admonishment to go read more books for next time.

Originally Posted by PilotBases

My favorite FOs at the regionals were formed 135 guys. Planesense, etc. Those guys could walk and chew gum. Night IFR approach to a podunk field? I could nap at TOD and they'd wake me up when I need to turn off the runway.

Originally Posted by overqualified52

. Yes but they will only get on the plane if there are "two Delta" pilots up front . Guess they don't specify the experience level 🤷‍♂️. Will they still get on the plane if there are "two Endeavor Pilots" up front on an RJ 7/9 owned and paid for by Delta carrying Delta passengers ?

Originally Posted by PilotWombat

This is exactly the experience I just had going through IQ. Done By One has made every sim session a show-and-tell for the instructors with no time to actually learn. Literally every sim session except one the instructor made a comment similar to "we have to hurry or else we won't be able to finish this session". What a joke it's become.


I had the opposite experience as a regional captain. The few 91/135 guys I flew with didn't know what a ramp was, had no clue about high speed aerodynamics or swept wings, and were so non-standardized it affected safety. The only guy I ever had to take the controls from was former 135.

The consistently best pilots I ever flew with were female 141 grads. Bar none.

Originally Posted by MJP27

Feedback from most students say otherwise.

Originally Posted by crewdawg

I'm not sure how often that will happen, but as Billy Ray Valentine said, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Originally Posted by Crown

Getting this thread back on track...Alaska is offering unpaid leave for December. My buddy there isn't sounding the alarm bells yet, but they're also hearing rumblings of hiring slowing down.