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jerryleber 01-13-2024 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3751174)
The percentages that actually left early outside of company ER offers was virtually zero.

Maybe they wanted to enjoy the benefits of their end of career seniority progression that was taken from at the age they were supposed to enjoy it. Not wanting the age to change, but staying if it does is contradictory in the least. Nice try though.

Contact your Senators now. Let them know the FAA Medical is incapable of evaluating cognitive decline.

https://alpa.quorum.us/campaign/48916/

Gone Flying 01-13-2024 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3751174)
What you have is the same plan I heard from 99% of the pilots I flew with over my career. The percentages that actually left early outside of company ER offers was virtually zero. 90% or more of the pilots on here screaming about raising the age and how horrible it is will be screaming to raise the age when they are over 60. Some things never change. It's kind of like mergers. If DOH benefits you in a merger it's the absolutely only fair way to merge. Then the next merger comes and you benefit from a ratio. That then becomes the only fair way to merge.

I have a very similar hope to Chris (60 or so), but unless we fix how we handle healthcare in this country I will probably stick around until I can get Medicare. But the plan would be to taper off my flying down to 1 trip or so a month.

tcco94 01-13-2024 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by snowdawg (Post 3751019)
The average age of the House is 58, Senate is 65.3. Government wants to keep people working longer generating tax revenue. Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

half of Washington is against it openly. No need to speculate. Any amount of research would show there’s a lot of opposition in Congress to age 67. Next time detach logic when talking about Congress. Because there is no logic up there regardless of where you sit for or against age 67

hvydvr 01-13-2024 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3751174)
What you have is the same plan I heard from 99% of the pilots I flew with over my career. The percentages that actually left early outside of company ER offers was virtually zero. 90% or more of the pilots on here screaming about raising the age and how horrible it is will be screaming to raise the age when they are over 60. Some things never change. It's kind of like mergers. If DOH benefits you in a merger it's the absolutely only fair way to merge. Then the next merger comes and you benefit from a ratio. That then becomes the only fair way to merge.

I wanted to be an early retirement guy. Overtime that has evolved into a Delta WalMart greeter guy. Get super senior in the category. Work 6-9 days a month and drop the rest. Keep the priority travel benefits for as long as possible.

MoonShot 01-13-2024 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by hvydvr (Post 3751212)
I wanted to be an early retirement guy. Overtime that has evolved into a Delta WalMart greeter guy. Get super senior in the category. Work 6-9 days a month and drop the rest. Keep the priority travel benefits for as long as possible.

Anyone on here drop below 35 hours a month on a regular basis? I’m curious of the mechanics of paying benefits when the 15th’s check is zero. I’d like to do the trip a month plan eventually but curious how that bit works?

CBreezy 01-13-2024 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751171)
turning a wrench? They are pilot jobs, Ace.

​​​​​​I know you're not that ignorant to think that turn of phrase actually means turning a wrench

Whoopsmybad 01-13-2024 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3750818)
I'm not sure why the big worry of 67 or 69 ? We aren't flying 727, 707 , L1011 etc. that were much more complicated to operate with much less technology and much more complex approaches with less technology. The airplanes are much more automated and systems easier managed by computers etc. Even if there is a cognitive decline somewhat by 67 or 69 the automation and technology more than make up for it . Not saying I'm pushing for those ages but if they pass those I don't see the big deal or raucous about it .

Tell me you haven’t had to cover for someone who is obviously past his/her/their prime without telling me you haven’t. It’s worse than single pilot ops, because you are fixing things that are wrong while trying not to ruin a working relationship.

Turbo1 01-13-2024 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3751235)
Tell me you haven’t had to cover for someone who is obviously past his/her/their prime without telling me you haven’t. It’s worse than single pilot ops, because you are fixing things that are wrong while trying not to ruin a working relationship.

I haven't.......Not once in 35 years......Nice try.......

Whoopsmybad 01-13-2024 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 3751246)
I haven't.......Not once in 35 years......Nice try.......

I have, multiple times. And yes, I really did have to try to keep us from getting violated.

Timbo 01-13-2024 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3751250)
I have, multiple times. And yes, I really did have to try to keep us from getting violated.

At Delta? Or someplace before?
I've never had to cover for anyone.

There was one 757 Cap I had at recurrent in about 1990 who'd just come off 25 years on the 727, who didn't like to "push buttons" on the FMS. So I did as much of that as the IP would allow but finally I got a tap on the shoulder from the IP who mouthed the words, "Let him do it." So I had to watch as he struggled but he got it done.

And to keep it even, I once had a 777 FO at recurrent who was so worthless the IP nearly busted him in the oral! He didn't know about half of the walk around slides! YGTBSM! Then when we got into the box I was pretty much single pilot. I was dismissed from the debriefing....never saw him again.


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