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sailingfun 01-13-2024 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by hvydvr (Post 3751212)
I wanted to be an early retirement guy. Overtime that has evolved into a Delta WalMart greeter guy. Get super senior in the category. Work 6-9 days a month and drop the rest. Keep the priority travel benefits for as long as possible.

S3B are virtually worthless. Buying tickets is a bit liberating. I can bang my fist on the counter and demand to know why the flight is late!

stephanie69 01-13-2024 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3751235)
Tell me you haven’t had to cover for someone who is obviously past his/her/their prime without telling me you haven’t. It’s worse than single pilot ops, because you are fixing things that are wrong while trying not to ruin a working relationship.

in 17 years, I have never had to cover for an old guy. A couple of times at the regional for a younger guy. Not saying that it doesn't happen but not my experience

SideStickMonkey 01-13-2024 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 3751246)
I haven't.......Not once in 35 years......Nice try.......

Hell, I have. More than once

My last two ASAPs were flying with guys 1xxx.

Meme In Command 01-13-2024 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3751276)
Hell, I have. More than once

My last two ASAPs were flying with guys 1xxx.

The guys that have never flown part 91/135 don't know what it's like babysitting a captain over 65...I felt safer as a fresh RJ captain with a brand new 21 yo FO fresh out of OE.

Gunfighter 01-13-2024 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 3751220)
Anyone on here drop below 35 hours a month on a regular basis? I’m curious of the mechanics of paying benefits when the 15th’s check is zero. I’d like to do the trip a month plan eventually but curious how that bit works?

IIRC the insurance balance carries over til the 30th and then gets deducted. ALPA dues will accrue and you get a bill in the mail when your account is reconciled.

Whoopsmybad 01-13-2024 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 3751268)
At Delta? Or someplace before?
I've never had to cover for anyone.

There was one 757 Cap I had at recurrent in about 1990 who'd just come off 25 years on the 727, who didn't like to "push buttons" on the FMS. So I did as much of that as the IP would allow but finally I got a tap on the shoulder from the IP who mouthed the words, "Let him do it." So I had to watch as he struggled but he got it done.

And to keep it even, I once had a 777 FO at recurrent who was so worthless the IP nearly busted him in the oral! He didn't know about half of the walk around slides! YGTBSM! Then when we got into the box I was pretty much single pilot. I was dismissed from the debriefing....never saw him again.

Yes, here at Delta. I’m not saying it’s common, but it has happened.

Bergman 01-14-2024 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo1 (Post 3751246)
I haven't.......Not once in 35 years......Nice try.......

That is fortunate for you! You should try sitting in the right seat of a 350 and watch what goes on sometimes. SMH. In my 8 years…happens monthly…

Hotel Kilo 01-14-2024 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3751276)
Hell, I have. More than once

My last two ASAPs were flying with guys 1xxx.

Reeeaaaalllllly. I question this statement. As I do the others posting similar. Moreso for the attitude. We're a team up there, not a mistake unless we both make it. I never kept a score card like some of you here seem to do, as captain or FO.

So since precedent set, Id say the most trouble I've had were with new hires of all flavor of background on the 88. It was a humbling airplane. I never ever thought about that I "saved" the other pilot, rather just being an engaged PM/captain.

We all have our good and bad days. I hope the other crew member is there to help me out on those bad days, I'm certainly there for them. I wish we'd knock off this generational thing, it's not healthy attitude to have. Just my opinion on the matter and last I'll be posting about it.

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Whoopsmybad 01-14-2024 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3751387)
Reeeaaaalllllly. I question this statement. As I do the others posting similar. Moreso for the attitude. We're a team up there, not a mistake unless we both make it. I never kept a score card like some of you here seem to do, as captain or FO.

So since precedent set, Id say the most trouble I've had were with new hires of all flavor of background on the 88. It was a humbling airplane. I never ever thought about that I "saved" the other pilot, rather just being an engaged PM/captain.

We all have our good and bad days. I hope the other crew member is there to help me out on those bad days, I'm certainly there for them. I wish we'd knock off this generational thing, it's not healthy attitude to have. Just my opinion on the matter and last I'll be posting about it.

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I agree we do all have good days and bad days. And of course we are a team. It’s why 2 people in the flight deck at all times will ALWAYS be the safest way to conduct flight operations.

My response it more to the people that claim that there’s no risk in moving the age to 67, because there is. Father Time is an undefeated champion, and it wins quicker in some than others, that’s my point. Regardless if you are 64 or 24, it’s coming for us all.

CBreezy 01-14-2024 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3751387)
Reeeaaaalllllly. I question this statement. As I do the others posting similar. Moreso for the attitude. We're a team up there, not a mistake unless we both make it. I never kept a score card like some of you here seem to do, as captain or FO.

So since precedent set, Id say the most trouble I've had were with new hires of all flavor of background on the 88. It was a humbling airplane. I never ever thought about that I "saved" the other pilot, rather just being an engaged PM/captain.

We all have our good and bad days. I hope the other crew member is there to help me out on those bad days, I'm certainly there for them. I wish we'd knock off this generational thing, it's not healthy attitude to have. Just my opinion on the matter and last I'll be posting about it.

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I don't think anyone is arguing that new guys don't make mistakes. We are arguing that we all make mistakes and that extending the retirement age isn't a risk free proposition as the raise the age crowd argues. They make it sound like they are infallible and retiring makes airline travel more unsafe.
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