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notEnuf 01-13-2024 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3750946)
Excellent idea.

That route goes through Canada and Pacific international airspace.

gloopy 01-13-2024 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3750825)
They don't need the money. They do it for love of what they do .

Airlines will need experienced instructors and managers at their flight academies. What better way to live the passion?

Or corporate flying.

Its just about the passion afterall, right?

Chico 01-13-2024 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3750915)
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Countries can’t secure unilateral agreements outside of ICAO. It’s the very reason that Canada has said that U.S. pilots won’t be able to fly to Canada over the current age of 65 despite the fact that Canadian pilots can fly in Canada over the age of 65. And ICAO is several years away at best to making any changes to the mandatory retirement age.


Dude: You don't know what you're talking about! NZ and Australia currently has over 65 pilots flying between countries because they have a side agreement. My dad's friend is one of them.

myrkridia 01-13-2024 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Chico (Post 3750995)
Dude: You don't know what you're talking about! NZ and Australia currently has over 65 pilots flying between countries because they have a side agreement. My dad's friend is one of them.

Who's Dude and why does he keep speaking on your behalf?

snowdawg 01-13-2024 10:33 AM

The average age of the House is 58, Senate is 65.3. Government wants to keep people working longer generating tax revenue. Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

Gunfighter 01-13-2024 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by snowdawg (Post 3751019)
The average age of the House is 58, Senate is 65.3. Government wants to keep people working longer generating tax revenue. Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

Can we get delayed implementation and put Delta in charge of it?

jerryleber 01-13-2024 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by snowdawg (Post 3751019)
Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

If that was the case why would their lobbyist have these pilots send this letter to Congress? Obviously, they wouldn't and Senator Cruz wouldn't be complaining about ALPA holding up the FAA Reauthorization bill.

Senator Cruz Slams ALPA

Contact your Senators now. Let them know the FAA Medical is incapable of evaluating cognitive decline.

https://alpa.quorum.us/campaign/48916/

StoneQOLdCrazy 01-13-2024 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by snowdawg (Post 3751019)
The average age of the House is 58, Senate is 65.3. Government wants to keep people working longer generating tax revenue. Pretty sure age 67 is a done deal, like it or not.

The AFL-CIO is now lobbying on behalf of ALPA's position.
No Dem lawmaker is going to buck Big Labor, and definately not in a preseidential election year.

hvydvr 01-13-2024 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3750945)
Japan.....

Good luck with that physical.

Vsop 01-13-2024 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3750674)
Just to keep this rational... federal age discrimination law would 100% prevent any company or union restrictions based on (old) age.

Only federal law (or the constitution) can supersede federal law.

If you hate 67, don't rely on your union to fix it after it passes.

I was wondering why the companies have been so quiet on this. In searching the DL PWA I might have found the answer. I agree that an age cannot be set via union-company negotiation, but read this section closely.

20.B.1
A pilot will accrue and retain seniority until the earlier of their termination, resignation, retirement, death, or attainment of the latest age under Part 121 of the FARs or other applicable statutes that they can serve as PIC or SIC, at which time they will be removed from the seniority list under Section 13. B. 3.


I believe that ALPA and the airlines will the bolded language to say ICAO, EASA, Canada … laws do not allow pilots over 65.


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