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Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3749494)

They said the quiet part out loud. What supreme hypocisy and irony to lambast "junior" for "earnings asipirations" while at "the peak of [thier] profession".

LOL.

How much danger were we in when people were forced to retire at 60? I had no idea the peril.

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Originally Posted by tcco94 (Post 3749498)

How much longer is this saga going to go on

Until the 5-year FAA reauthorization bill is passed...

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3749502)

How much danger were we in when people were forced to retire at 60? I had no idea the peril.

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I think they should have unbound opportuities at flight schools and as instructors where thier experience and mentorship can be best utilized. Regional airline training departments seems the most logical.

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Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3749482)

In office until March.

Most are a list of has beens who now have an axe to grind.

March cannot come quickly enough.

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3749474)

A lot of former nobodies and retired pilots on that list. Definitely some pandering by an old MEC Chairman here was the panderer in chief and got us into this retirement restoration debacle in the first place by claiming we could raise DC to 25%. Dollar signs can do a lot to cloud a soon to be retired guy's vision. Many of them, I'm sure, were opposed to 65.

I don't favor 67. I think 65 was the sweet spot between being fair and a decline in ability to multitask and handle complex situations. What I do find odd however is the current group of pilots screaming about the loss of what would probably be a year to 14 months of career advancement. I find it odd because pilots hired post 2007 have seen a unheard of level of advancement. They will also enjoy a retirement probably triple pilots who have retired in the last 5 years.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3749530)

I'm opposed to the money grab. The guys lobbying hardest, most of whom were hired in their mid-to-late 20s, are jealous of those hired in the last few years, that anyone else is going to have it as good or better than they had it. They see how good the newest generation of pilots MIGHT have it (might because we are one tech advance or one recession away from chaos) and are trying to skim some cheese off the top of their good fortune. "Hey, you guys are going to have it so good. How about you give me a little something something for my trouble." No. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and sail off into the setting sun. We are all down here trying to learn from your mistakes (poor planning in retirement and in relationships and family planning) and saving as much as we can before the 2nd shoe drops...which is imminent.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3749530)

No more rediculous than those that have been haranguing anyone who will listen about how they "earned" their position and the right to stay in it as long as they like. While of course completely ignoring the mandatory retirements that got them there in the first place. It's brought out ugliness on both sides of the issue.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3749530)

That's interesting, I personally know a pilot who spent 8 years in the right seat of an MD-88 and upgraded at 13 years. That was after spending a decade at a regional and time at an LCC. So 24 years into an airline career they grabbed the brass ring of the NB A and will be there for the remainder. And never had a pension or PBGC entitlement BTW