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01-11-2024 | 05:16 PM

#71

ReluctantEskimo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper25

How did this post get buried? It’s a great question worth discussing.

Beyond codifying an age 65 retirement in the CBA, I don't know what ALPA could give back that would justify a big ask. That's the only way that you could smooth over the operational burden.

01-11-2024 | 05:48 PM

#72

interceptorpilo

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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo

Beyond codifying an age 65 retirement in the CBA, I don't know what ALPA could give back that would justify a big ask. That's the only way that you could smooth over the operational burden.

I think the big asks would come if 67 passes and Delta has to live with it. ALPA could agree to some training gives in order to make the transition cheaper for Delta. IOW ALPA agrees to allow Delta to require all WB pilots over 65 bid to NB unless and until ICAO allows 67 year old pilots to fly and the quid would be Positive Space for commuters and Holiday pay for all holidays and first class on all DH and …..

01-11-2024 | 06:02 PM

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PilotBases

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As I've said before, you show up to fly a trip you're unqualified for, you don't get paid. No different from forgetting your passport. Simple.

01-11-2024 | 06:03 PM

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CBreezy

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Originally Posted by PilotBases

As I've said before, you show up to fly a trip you're unqualified for, you don't get paid. No different from forgetting your passport. Simple.

If 67 is passed and we can't legally institute our own retirement age of 65, we would be bound to fight for them to get paid to sit at home.

01-11-2024 | 06:07 PM

#75

Gone Flying

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Originally Posted by PilotBases

As I've said before, you show up to fly a trip you're unqualified for, you don't get paid. No different from forgetting your passport. Simple.

unless they bid reserve.

01-11-2024 | 06:18 PM

#76

Moonbeam

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Originally Posted by tcco94

How much longer is this saga going to go on

If you have been around since the flight engineer days in the airline industry you will see there is no known cure for herpes. It also a known fact that herpes can lay dormant for years only to have an outbreak at the most opportune time, or most inopportune time depending where you fall on the seniority list.

01-11-2024 | 07:13 PM

#77

Mediocre Pilot

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Originally Posted by CaptKochblauch

First Officer Doug Keehn

Nice of all those old Captains to allow a token FO to sign the letter.

01-11-2024 | 07:35 PM

#78

HelloNewnan

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Originally Posted by interceptorpilo

ALPA can't agree to anything of the sort. Any change of that magnitude would have to go to the membership for ratification.

01-12-2024 | 06:39 AM

#79

StoneQOLdCrazy

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Originally Posted by HelloNewnan

ALPA can't agree to anything of the sort. Any change of that magnitude would have to go to the membership for ratification.

What are the chances that a majority of the pilot group will be OK with geezers sitting home to collect a check for two years, after the way they have underminded the union, alinged themselves with anti-labor politicaians/the RAA, and unmasked themselves as selfish buffoons? Less than zero IMO

The irony is this is exactly what the old-timers will want...after blabbering about "solving the pilot shortage" by raising the retirment age.