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JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3751781)
Most offensive thing to me in this mess is that I don’t want my beer/bourbon/sports/etc… to be political. Left, right, whatever. Just be beer. Just play a game. Let me enjoy not being pushed by both sides to be decisive for just a little bit of time.

Absolutely agree 100%.

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 3751767)
Challenge accepted :D

I’m not personally offended by it though I do think it’s a bit silly if legit. I imagine the offensive part is relegating one race to “lower case” while another is “upper case.” Optics and all.

Serious question: would it be offensive if white was upper case while black was lower case?

Agree it’s a silly thing to get wound up about though. My kids are mixed race, so what would they be? I’m hoping for cursive.

He was trying to bait me into answering why I was offended by the Bud Light ad campaign.

I agree with your stance though on the subject you responded to.

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751787)
Why does it have to be? It offended me. That's all you or anyone else needs to know. And it doesn't matter anyway, because all my answer would do is give you ammo to virtue signal. The thing that DOES matter is that BL sales are still in the tank. Apparently a lot of other people were offended as well. If ImBev doesn't care, that's fine as well, (but I'll bet they do). And just like Nike, I will never spend another dime on either product and that's all I need to justify. I couldn't care less what kind of beer you drink or what shoes you wear. You do you.

what, specifically, about it offended you?

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751790)
He was trying to bait me into answering why I was offended by the Bud Light ad campaign.

I agree with your stance though on the subject you responded to.

I was trying to “bait you” into explaining an opinion of yours. How awful that must be for you.

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751792)
what, specifically, about it offended you?

I'll speak more slowly. None. of. your. business.

Hotel Kilo 01-14-2024 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751792)
what, specifically, about it offended you?

you own stock in InBev? Not so good eh? I mean what other reason would you be so butt hurt about it?

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3751781)
Most offensive thing to me in this mess is that I don’t want my beer/bourbon/sports/etc… to be political. Left, right, whatever. Just be beer. Just play a game. Let me enjoy not being pushed by both sides to be decisive for just a little bit of time.

have you ever posted the same thing about, say, black rifle coffee company?

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751794)
I'll speak more slowly. None. of. your. business.

exactly. It won’t be answered. Most likely because you either don’t know or don’t want to know what the ad campaign that “offends you” actually was.

Hotel Kilo 01-14-2024 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751793)
I was trying to “bait you” into explaining an opinion of yours. How awful that must be for you.

Don't be so disingenuous, you're always antagonistic here. From recent posts about "learning curve" to this. You have a long and jaded history of baiting certain posters here. It's not lost on many of us that are not as active as you and CBreezy etc

Hotel Kilo 01-14-2024 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751797)
have you ever posted the same thing about, say, black rifle coffee company?

BRCC product is ***. I wouldn't give that junk to my dog. What does that have to do with JB and his statement?

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751798)
exactly. It won’t be answered. Most likely because you either don’t know or don’t want to know what the ad campaign that “offends you” actually was.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....e23&ipo=images

Nice try.

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3751800)
Don't be so disingenuous, you're always antagonistic here. From recent posts about "learning curve" to this. You have a long and jaded history of baiting certain posters here. It's not lost on many of us that are not as active as you and CBreezy etc

I’m sorry for asking someone to explain what offended them after they claimed to be offended. That must be very hard to suffer through.

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751802)

life must be rough being perpetually offended by things you don’t even understand

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751797)
have you ever posted the same thing about, say, black rifle coffee company?

Why would I? I happen to respect their stance on things. I don't have any, haven't bought any of their coffee.

Waffle 01-14-2024 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751794)
I'll speak more slowly. None. of. your. business.

How sad. You went out of your way to be offended about a marketing campaign that wasn't targeted to you.

And now you can't back up why you're offended. I'll tell you why you're offended... because you were told to be.

Meme In Command 01-14-2024 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751797)
have you ever posted the same thing about, say, black rifle coffee company?

Careful now, the Neanderthals haven't developed the part of the brain that understands hypocrisy

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751806)
Why would I? I happen to respect their stance on things. I don't have any, haven't bought any of their coffee.

Of course you do…but you want every company to be apolitical.

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751805)
life must be rough being perpetually offended by things you don’t even understand

Keep trying.

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751810)
Of course you do…but you want every company to be apolitical.

I didn't say that. That's you attempting to virtue signal again.

Keep trying.

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751812)
I didn't say that. That's you attempting to virtue signal again.

Keep trying.

so, you do not, in fact, agree 100%? Why say that you do?


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3751781)
I don’t want my beer/bourbon/sports/etc… to be political. Left, right, whatever. Just be beer. Just play a game.


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751789)
Absolutely agree 100%.

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MarvinB 01-14-2024 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751792)
what, specifically, about it offended you?

I'll bite, even though I'm comfident you'll do exactly what JB said you'd do.

It was offensive because like eveything to do with the trans delusion/movement it makes a mockery of women. It pretends, and then tries to force sane rational humans into agreement, that men can just decide to become women, and poof it's so. That the whole idea that we can somehow seperate our selves into physical and spiritual/metaphysical (use whatever term you want) beings where it is possible for us to use the recent idea of gender as distinct from sex and therefor self identify as something we are not. Until 5 minutes ago this would have been wholesale laughed at (rightfully so) and yet today people take that feces seriously. It was double offensive to many because the dude was not only pretending to be female, he was playing the role (and still is from all evidence) of a 10 to 12 year old female. I am aware that there are some serious mental health issues that go along with the very rare issue of gender disphoria, but for the most part the recent contagion of "trans" is attention whoring and grown-ups failing to be grown-ups.

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751814)
so, you do not, in fact, agree 100%? Why say that you do?



It really isn't that hard. I would rather companies remain apolitical. But should they take a chance and go down that road, I will make a decision based on that. If I find their views offensive I take my money elsewhere.

Don't you find it interesting that BL tanks while the 'boycotts' of Chick-Fil-A/Goya/Hobby Lobby failed miserably? LOL

I wonder why.

Myfingershurt 01-14-2024 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by MarvinB (Post 3751821)
I'll bite, even though I'm comfident you'll do exactly what JB said you'd do.

It was offensive because like eveything to do with the trans delusion/movement it makes a mockery of women. It pretends, and then tries to force sane rational humans into agreement, that men can just decide to become women, and poof it's so. That the whole idea that we can somehow seperate our selves into physical and spiritual/metaphysical (use whatever term you want) beings where it is possible for us to use the recent idea of gender as distinct from sex and therefor self identify as something we are not. Until 5 minutes ago this would have been wholesale laughed at (rightfully so) and yet today people take that feces seriously. It was double offensive to many because the dude was not only pretending to be female, he was playing the role (and still is from all evidence) of a 10 to 12 year old female. I am aware that there are some serious mental health issues that go along with the very rare issue of gender disphoria, but for the most part the recent contagion of "trans" is attention whoring and grown-ups failing to be grown-ups.

a-freaking-men. Preach.

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751823)
It really isn't that hard. I would rather companies remain apolitical. But should they take a chance and go down that road, I will make a decision based on that. If I find their views offensive I take my money elsewhere.

Don't you find it interesting that BL tanks while the 'boycotts' of Chick-Fil-A/Goya/Hobby Lobby failed miserably? LOL

I wonder why.

so, you only stick by your principle of desiring apolitical corporate stances when it aligns with your existing behavior?

“Principles only matter when they’re inconvenient.”

JamesBond 01-14-2024 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751827)
so, you only stick by your principle of desiring apolitical corporate stances when it aligns with your existing behavior?

“Principles only matter when they’re inconvenient.”

Dude. Stop it. You are trying to make something when there is nothing there. Nike/BL used campaigns that were offensive (to me and a lot of other people). I don't buy their products because of that. That's all you need to know. What I find pretty funny at this point is that you keep trying to bait me into something that isn't there.

But keep trying. Dinner won't be ready for an hour.

Viper25 01-14-2024 02:48 PM

Dang Oooffff, just give it a rest. Who are you to judge somebody’s subjective sense of being offended? If that’s a person’s involuntary emotional reaction, then that’s ok. People are allowed to instinctively feel certain ways about things. Why is that bad?

And nobody owes an explanation for that either. Again, it is subjective. And nobody else’s business. If they want to share, that’s fine. But there’s no moral ground lost if not.

OOfff 01-14-2024 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3751838)
Dang Oooffff, just give it a rest. Who are you to judge somebody’s subjective sense of being offended? If that’s a person’s involuntary emotional reaction, then that’s ok. People are allowed to instinctively feel certain ways about things. Why is that bad?

And nobody owes an explanation for that either. Again, it is subjective. And nobody else’s business. If they want to share, that’s fine. But there’s no moral ground lost if not.

I thought reacting with involuntary emotion instead of reason is a bad thing?

Red Forman 01-14-2024 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751827)
so, you only stick by your principle of desiring apolitical corporate stances when it aligns with your existing behavior?

“Principles only matter when they’re inconvenient.”

You don’t know how to read.

Hotel Kilo 01-14-2024 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751842)
I thought reacting with involuntary emotion instead of reason is a bad thing?

It seems JB and others are not reacting with emotion, again, that is your lense that you are looking thru and forming YOUR opinion on the matter. I don't read JB's or others retorts as being "emotional" to me they are rather cogent and thought out. I have some good books for you to read on psychology and formitive thought that might interst/assist you, I can PM them to you. It might help you out in your struggle to understand that not everyone is going to see thru the same lense as you, and that doesn't make them wrong, or you right.

It is clear you and I have different opinions on matters, that's fine, I respect your position, and you should respect mine. It doens't have to be devisive. If you could open up the apeture a bit you'd see that we may agree on more things than you realize.

JamesBond 01-14-2024 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751842)
I thought reacting with involuntary emotion instead of reason is a bad thing?

Not every reason anyone has for lilking/disliking something is your business. What's really funny is that it is killing you that I won't divulge mine. The next step for you is to go complete Goebbels and make up something that you THINK it is so that you can feel some kind of sanctimony about your stance on the issue.

But it won't work, because I don't care what you buy/drink/wear.

Oh. And I find electric vehicles offensive too. Care to talk about that?

OOfff 01-14-2024 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751859)
Not every reason anyone has for lilking/disliking something is your business. What's really funny is that it is killing you that I won't divulge mine. The next step for you is to go complete Goebbels and make up something that you THINK it is so that you can feel some kind of sanctimony about your stance on the issue.

But it won't work, because I don't care what you buy/drink/wear.

Oh. And I find electric vehicles offensive too. Care to talk about that?

at least we got to the Nazi accusation part of the conversation.

JamesBond 01-14-2024 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751861)
at least we got to the Nazi accusation part of the conversation.

I didn't say Nazi, but used a tactician that happened to be a Nazi. I didn't accuse you of being one. It was that you would use the tactics of one.


You're out of ammo.

Meme In Command 01-14-2024 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Viper25 (Post 3751838)
Dang Oooffff, just give it a rest. Who are you to judge somebody’s subjective sense of being offended? If that’s a person’s involuntary emotional reaction, then that’s ok. People are allowed to instinctively feel certain ways about things. Why is that bad?

And nobody owes an explanation for that either. Again, it is subjective. And nobody else’s business. If they want to share, that’s fine. But there’s no moral ground lost if not.

If only we extended that same courtesy to people we might disagree with ..say, people that BL may have been targeting with their cans.... I know, I know a boy can dream

JamesBond 01-14-2024 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3751864)
If only we extended that same courtesy to people we might disagree with ..say, people that BL may have been targeting with their cans.... I know, I know a boy can dream

Who doesn't?

Oh I wish I had more time tonight, because you opened a huge can of worms that you probably didn't want to. At least I HOPE you didn't

Meme In Command 01-14-2024 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3751866)
Who doesn't?

Oh I wish I had more time tonight, because you opened a huge can of worms that you probably didn't want to. At least I HOPE you didn't

Dawg, like all of y'all's political personality revolves around making fun of those you deem "easily offended".



OOOOH I didn't see that edit! BRING IT ON BIG GUY!

JamesBond 01-14-2024 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3751872)
Dawg, like all of y'all's political personality revolves around making fun of those you deem "easily offended".



OOOOH I didn't see that edit! BRING IT ON BIG GUY!

OK. Who am i 'making fun of'?

Hotel Kilo 01-14-2024 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3751861)
at least we got to the Nazi accusation part of the conversation.

Ok, you've lost the high ground.

SideStickMonkey 01-14-2024 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3751877)
Ok, you've lost the high ground.

He’s not the one that brought it up

JamesBond 01-14-2024 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3751891)
He’s not the one that brought it up

If you can give me another example of a propaganda expert/tactician that isn't in current day politics, I will gladly go back and amend my post. I didn't particularly care to use the one I did, but I can't think of another that won't get deleted for politics.

And I didn't use the 'N' word. HE did.

Hotel Kilo 01-14-2024 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3751891)
He’s not the one that brought it up

Who did? JB didn't. That's who OOfff was referring to in their post

Again, lost the high ground.


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