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CoefficientX 01-15-2024 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752161)
Weapon? Really? Show me one person who so much as lost a fake nail over "canceling" misinformation on Twitter.

Civility and respect for the law are virtues.

When people are uncivil and unlawful their views should NOT be promoted using the megaphone created by social media. "Cancelling" liars and those trying to incite harm is what a good society should do. Sure, everyone has a right to speak, up to the limit of causing actual harm. That does not give them any lawful right to use anyone else's platform.

I can not even wrap my head around why some people find it good, or cool, to be offensive. Why bother? If "they" prefer "Happy Holidays" to "Christmas" fine. What is wrong with people being happy?

It would seem Fox news fed a nation of dopamine addicts looking for the brief high of being angry about something or somebody and a reactionary group fo people who get a dopa hit from calling them out on it.


You’re over simplifying it. Rational opposing voices were being canceled simply because the mods on twitter didn't want any message other than the ones they endorsed getting out, and it wasn’t just twitter. That should be troubling no matter which viewpoint you have.

RippinClapBombs 01-15-2024 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752161)
Weapon? Really? Show me one person who so much as lost a fake nail over "canceling" misinformation on Twitter.

Civility and respect for the law are virtues.


The problem was anything that wasn’t backing the state was considered “misinformation” and being cancelled in various discrete actions by Twitter employees. “Twitter Files” exposed the internal workings on how the social media application was being utilized as a liberal propaganda weapon.

Bucking Bar 01-15-2024 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by CrazyEight (Post 3752104)
This! It will never end until we quit talking and making a big deal about it. Racial tensions are the worst they have been since the 60s, fueled by the divide and conquer crowd. I wish we would stick to being an airline.

Yes and no. I agree with your thought though.

Just went over to X looking for Tesla news (going to get me a M3 performance, the new one, yet to be announced). 95% of the feed was videos taken of horrible crimes in really bad neighborhoods followed by thousands of really racist posts trying to make sense of the senseless videos. In days past nobody would have seen these kinds of things (except criminals and combat veterans). Empathy, justice and a search for understanding are characteristics that are hard-wired into humans. Fewer people understand addiction. Outrage can trigger a dopamine hit. I hope we are getting smarter; realizing that yes, terrible stuff happens, but our world and the vast majority of the world is pretty damn great. Further, we do have the power to make it better and do something good, because we are good.

Truly, one of the things I like about our business is the way it brings all kinds of people together. Interacting with all kinds of people is fun and interesting. Isn't that what travel is all about?

Racial tensions are not that high. People are getting smarter about tuning out the politicians and those paid for keeping our attention. I think people are getting smarter. Since moderation has been removed X has seen a 55% decline in revenue on a 13% decline in active users.

LAXtoDEN 01-15-2024 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752183)
Yes and no. I agree with your thought though.

Just went over to X looking for Tesla news (going to get me a M3 performance, the new one, yet to be announced). 95% of the feed was videos taken of horrible crimes in really bad neighborhoods followed by thousands of really racist posts trying to make sense of the senseless videos. In days past nobody would have seen these kinds of things (except criminals and combat veterans).

Hey Buck those are liberal run city’s and those crackhead criminals are the victims of liberal policies. I’ll say it again. They’re VICTIMS of Democratic policies.

It’s awesome this is finally being exposed to the public and not censored to hide failed policies. I have X, racial posts are still being removed and accounts banned. Tweeting, “look at these thugs” is not racist. Capitalizing W on White and not capitalizing B on black is not racist. You’re just a softy little Buck. I have no problem with that letter to Delta employees btw. We have to be extra careful to small minded individuals like you that get all in your feelings. Our customers pay the bills at the end of the day.

I’ll be waiting for your emotional response where you get all in your feelings again because someone doesn’t think EXACTLY like you.

SideStickMonkey 01-15-2024 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3752194)
Hey Buck those are liberal run city’s and those crackhead criminals are the victims of liberal policies. I’ll say it again. They’re VICTIMS of Democratic policies.

It’s awesome this is finally being exposed to the public and not censored to hide failed policies. I have X, racial posts are still being removed and accounts banned. Tweeting, “look at these thugs” is not racist. Capitalizing W on White and not capitalizing B on black is not racist. You’re just a softy little Buck. I have no problem with that letter to Delta employees btw. We have to be extra careful to small minded individuals like you that get all in your feelings. Our customers pay the bills at the end of the day.

I’ll be waiting for your emotional response where you get all in your feelings again because someone doesn’t think EXACTLY like you.

I can’t tell if this entire post was sarcasm or not

LAXtoDEN 01-15-2024 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3751611)
I actually found the document on Deltanet. This is a complete misrepresentaion of the guidance.

"communications teams follow the AP standard of lowercasing "white," similar to brown, in formal communications"

The letter was probably necessary because you had confusion from our employees on how to not unintentionally offend someone. Following AP standard is just an official defense from when someone inevitably gets offended by referring to them as “Black” instead of “black”. Interesting enough as a “Black” man myself I’d find it more alarming if someone referred to me using the capital B instead of a lower case b. It reads as if you’re empathizing the fact I’m a specific skin color. The fact Delta needs to create a fall back for any of this is absolutely pathetic.

Hawaii50 01-15-2024 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752016)
All this Bud Light, concern about whether someone sits to pee, etc is just a distraction so we don't get together and collectively ask questions like:
  • How is it some people can deduct $1 billion on a $100,000 investment? (depletion exemption)
  • Why is it hedge funds managers can consider compensation a long-term capital gain taxed at about half of what we wage earners pay?
  • Why is it that billionaires mostly pay no tax, unless they are dumb enough to liquidate equity to buy Twitter?
  • Why not just let AIG Financial Products division go bankrupt and settle with Deutchesbank & Goldman Sachs?
Instead, we are upset about stuff that doesn't matter.

And it still amazes me after all these years how there's so much focus at the beginning of a Presidential election year on what a few very senior men and women in Iowa think.

Hubcapped 01-15-2024 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3752064)

Twitter was being used as an informational weapon. Elon bought Twitter to save freedom of speech. He believed “Cancel Culture” was becoming a virus to society.

https://youtu.be/N8Nf56srwcA?feature=shared

oh my God, I hope this is sarcasm, if not…..sweet Christ, get a grip.

Milk Man 01-15-2024 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3752148)
According to the AP, if you capitalize the "w" in white, you're a white supremacist.

Along with exercise, and reporting to work on time.

gloopy 01-15-2024 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 3752242)
And it still amazes me after all these years how there's so much focus at the beginning of a Presidential election year on what a few very senior men and women in Iowa think.

Its a media event for the benefit of the echo chamber media. No one else cares.

If an article gets published in a forest of nonsense and no one reads it, does it make a sound?

Bucking Bar 01-15-2024 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3752194)
Hey Buck those are liberal run city’s and those crackhead criminals are the victims of liberal policies. I’ll say it again. They’re VICTIMS of Democratic policies.

It’s awesome this is finally being exposed to the public and not censored to hide failed policies. I have X, racial posts are still being removed and accounts banned. Tweeting, “look at these thugs” is not racist. Capitalizing W on White and not capitalizing B on black is not racist. You’re just a softy little Buck. I have no problem with that letter to Delta employees btw. We have to be extra careful to small minded individuals like you that get all in your feelings. Our customers pay the bills at the end of the day.

I’ll be waiting for your emotional response where you get all in your feelings again because someone doesn’t think EXACTLY like you.

So that's the political campaign? Might you have an authoritarian in mind who could save us?

You do realize that calling someone who is optimistic, not at all afraid a "softy," kind of just bounces off into nothingness, right?

We are likely in complete agreement that some jurisdictions completely dropped the ball on the prosecution of street crimes. It is a bipartisan problem. At the root of the problem is that none of us particularly likes paying for police, prisons & prosecutors. The current administration and Congress (one Bill was written and pushed forward by our Georgia Senators) increased police and border protection funding.

If you want real conservatives and moderates to vote not-Democrat then you've got to give us a candidate who respects law and order. (I have no idea why that is a problem. Seems like common sense)

Hawaii50 01-15-2024 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3752259)
Its a media event for the benefit of the echo chamber media. No one else cares.

If an article gets published in a forest of nonsense and no one reads it, does it make a sound?

I agree.......but candidates drop out very early on due to Iowa and polling numbers in other early states. Seems like we all lose with fewer choices before most of us are really paying attention.

notEnuf 01-15-2024 09:29 AM

Law and order: procecution street crime not abuse of power political openents and insurectionists tourists.

RippinClapBombs 01-15-2024 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3752243)
oh my God, I hope this is sarcasm, if not…..sweet Christ, get a grip.

It wasn’t sarcasm and I’ll be just fine haha. I was responding to a false accusation. Elon did not purchase Twitter for the intentions of financial gain. He has vocalized his reasons for purchase publicly on multiple platforms.

Published documents have been released (Twitter Files) that provide evidence of collusion between tech companies, liberal politicians and the “deep state” to silence their critics. I believe information can be used as weapon. U.S. Department of Defense refers to it as Informational Warfare (IW).

Red Forman 01-15-2024 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3751999)
How come none of my female friends think they're being mocked? It seems like it's only old men who are offended...

My collegiate swimming niece would like a word.

OOfff 01-15-2024 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 3752374)
My collegiate swimming niece would like a word.

weirdly, dylan Mulvaney isn’t a collegiate swimmer

Red Forman 01-15-2024 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3752375)
weirdly, dylan Mulvaney isn’t a collegiate swimmer

No **** Sherlock. I must have missed that every single response in this thread revolves around him.

Bucking Bar 01-15-2024 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3752302)
Law and order: procecution street crime not abuse of power political openents and insurectionists tourists.

Prosecute with no malice and no mercy. Anyone who does the crime does the time.

Support our institutions (they mostly do a very good job).

JamesBond 01-15-2024 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3752375)
weirdly, dylan Mulvaney isn’t a collegiate swimmer

Dylan Mulvaney isn't a woman either.

Nor is William Thomas

Hotel Kilo 01-15-2024 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3752173)
The problem was anything that wasn’t backing the state was considered “misinformation” and being cancelled in various discrete actions by Twitter employees. “Twitter Files” exposed the internal workings on how the social media application was being utilized as a liberal propaganda weapon.


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3752216)
I can’t tell if this entire post was sarcasm or not


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 3752242)
And it still amazes me after all these years how there's so much focus at the beginning of a Presidential election year on what a few very senior men and women in Iowa think.


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3752243)
oh my God, I hope this is sarcasm, if not…..sweet Christ, get a grip.

It's a fact Twitter, FB et.al. have and were censoring posts. It's a fact they received marching orders. It's all out there, just go research it.

One example is some posters on FB were commenting on how Al Gore and John Kerry have been wrong about every climate prediction they've made since like 2000 (for Al Gore, Kerry came on board later). They were banned, almost instantly. Turns out they were correct. For on December 14th, 2009 in Copehhagen Al Gore is on video clearly stating that the ice caps would be gone by 2014. Hmmmmm.

https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1746941237540589988?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1746941237540589988%7Ctwgr% 5Efc77797a4f9f5a0ccbbd50e819c7cef6d98dd7eb%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunities.win%2Fc%2 FTheDonald%2Fp%2F17s5kKL0jx%2Fal-gore-and-john-kerry-predictin%2Fc%2F

This is from "X". never would have seen the light of day on the old twitter. Fact.

So who's right here and who's wrong? Seems to me there is still plenty of ice up there, and down there on the poles.

Yes, SM is manipulated for a purpose and that purpose heavily bias's to one side of the political spectrum. I'm glad Elon bought twitter and cleaned house. It was a good move. Much more is coming to light as a result becasue we can now have somewhat open discussions there without fear of irritating the purple haired cat lady who's moderating and has a very clear political slant (no offense to purple haired cat ladies out there - I happen to like cats, we have 4 of them running around here at the house, little furry killing machines).

hockeypilot44 01-15-2024 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3752592)
It's a fact Twitter, FB et.al. have and were censoring posts. It's a fact they received marching orders. It's all out there, just go research it.

One example is some posters on FB were commenting on how Al Gore and John Kerry have been wrong about every climate prediction they've made since like 2000 (for Al Gore, Kerry came on board later). They were banned, almost instantly. Turns out they were correct. For on December 14th, 2009 in Copehhagen Al Gore is on video clearly stating that the ice caps would be gone by 2014. Hmmmmm.

https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1746941237540589988?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1746941237540589988%7Ctwgr% 5Efc77797a4f9f5a0ccbbd50e819c7cef6d98dd7eb%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunities.win%2Fc%2 FTheDonald%2Fp%2F17s5kKL0jx%2Fal-gore-and-john-kerry-predictin%2Fc%2F

This is from "X". never would have seen the light of day on the old twitter. Fact.

So who's right here and who's wrong? Seems to me there is still plenty of ice up there, and down there on the poles.

Yes, SM is manipulated for a purpose and that purpose heavily bias's to one side of the political spectrum. I'm glad Elon bought twitter and cleaned house. It was a good move. Much more is coming to light as a result becasue we can now have somewhat open discussions there without fear of irritating the purple haired cat lady who's moderating and has a very clear political slant (no offense to purple haired cat ladies out there - I happen to like cats, we have 4 of them running around here at the house, little furry killing machines).

They were scrubbing covid anti-masking posts as fast as possible. Another way to get banned even though if has now been proven that wearing masks doesn’t do anything to prevent covid.

gloopy 01-15-2024 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752383)
Prosecute with no malice and no mercy. Anyone who does the crime does the time.

Support our institutions (they mostly do a very good job).

That ship has sailed. Best case its "Three Felonies a Day" (book from Silverglate & Dershowitz) and worst case its rapidly devolving into Lavrentiy Beria running the show now.

Bucking Bar 01-16-2024 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3752625)
That ship has sailed. Best case its "Three Felonies a Day" (book from Silverglate & Dershowitz) and worst case its rapidly devolving into Lavrentiy Beria running the show now.

Well no, it has not. The courthouse is how we resolve our differences and hold people accountable; by the decisions of our citizenry and our peers. Trump has been indicted by grand juries of our peers. As for Leninist tropes, you're understanding the influence Steve Bannon has had.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-barr-trump-indictment-first-amendment-face-the-nation/

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/25/trump-paul-gosar-suggest-gen-mark-milley-deserves-death.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4311194-trump-signals-revenge-in-second-term/

Bucking Bar 01-16-2024 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3752609)
They were scrubbing covid anti-masking posts as fast as possible. Another way to get banned even though if has now been proven that wearing masks doesn’t do anything to prevent covid.

Face condoms prevent the spread of viruses, not completely but they help.

hockeypilot44 01-16-2024 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752742)
Face condoms prevent the spread of viruses, not completely but they help.

I know it’s hard to believe that the news lied to you completely over and over, but the studies have shown that the covid numbers were nearly identical between the places forcing mask wear and the places that weren’t.

The social media sites were pulling any links to legitimate scientific studies that didn’t fit the narrative.

Bucking Bar 01-16-2024 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3752592)
It's a fact Twitter, FB et.al. have and were censoring posts. It's a fact they received marching orders. It's all out there, just go research it.

We saw, and some of us cheered for the Arab Spring that was organized over social media.

January 6th set in motion the changes in command at Twitter, specifically banning President Trump for explicitly calling for a march on the Capitol. “Please arrive early, massive crowds expected,” the tweet reads. “March to the Capitol after." We now know the plan was to delay and disrupt the ministrative duties of Congress, then have allies in Congress change the outcome of the election. We also know that Trump stated the armed people in the crowd were not there to harm him.

Twitter had weak leadership and I do not think they knew what to do with what they had built. It began as a virtual "town square" and in fact there are ALL KINDS OF LAWS about what you can do you in your local town square. Jack Dorsey was in Papeete on a boat when the stuff went down.

Twitter became a way that Elites could communicate with "followers," not "friends." That was for some time maybe the best news feed there has ever been.

Today the lack of filtration has resulted in a sewer where very few wish to swim.

Bucking Bar 01-16-2024 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3752744)
I know it’s hard to believe that the news lied to you completely over and over, but the studies have shown that the covid numbers were nearly identical between the places forcing mask wear and the places that weren’t.

The social media sites were pulling any links to legitimate scientific studies that didn’t fit the narrative.

Of course, it is endemic.

I don't watch the news (haven't had a cable subscription since the 1990's) but masks (and condoms) have been around. These are about the simplest tools that exist.

The condom simile works. My howitzer is blazing and there are zillions of wanna-be Bucking Bar babies, but the spread is nearly eliminated.

Yeah, that's the visual ... :-)

Whoopsmybad 01-16-2024 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752749)
We saw, and some of us cheered for the Arab Spring that was organized over social media.

January 6th set in motion the changes in command at Twitter, specifically banning President Trump for explicitly calling for a march on the Capitol. “Please arrive early, massive crowds expected,” the tweet reads. “March to the Capitol after." We now know the plan was to delay and disrupt the ministrative duties of Congress, then have allies in Congress change the outcome of the election. We also know that Trump stated the armed people in the crowd were not there to harm him.

Twitter had weak leadership and I do not think they knew what to do with what they had built. It began as a virtual "town square" and in fact there are ALL KINDS OF LAWS about what you can do you in your local town square.

Twitter became a way that Elites could communicate with "followers," not "friends." That was for some time maybe the best news feed there has ever been.

Today the lack of filtration has turned it into a sewer.

Social Media, in general, is a sewer. Nothing worthwhile there. This is my only fix I have in that regard, and sometimes I regret this…

hockeypilot44 01-16-2024 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752749)
We saw, and some of us cheered for the Arab Spring that was organized over social media.

January 6th set in motion the changes in command at Twitter, specifically banning President Trump for explicitly calling for a march on the Capitol. “Please arrive early, massive crowds expected,” the tweet reads. “March to the Capitol after." We now know the plan was to delay and disrupt the ministrative duties of Congress, then have allies in Congress change the outcome of the election. We also know that Trump stated the armed people in the crowd were not there to harm him.

Twitter had weak leadership and I do not think they knew what to do with what they had built. It began as a virtual "town square" and in fact there are ALL KINDS OF LAWS about what you can do you in your local town square. Jack Dorsey was in Papeete on a boat when the stuff went down.

Twitter became a way that Elites could communicate with "followers," not "friends." That was for some time maybe the best news feed there has ever been.

Today the lack of filtration has resulted in a sewer where very few wish to swim.

If people really believed what you said was true, Trump would have no chance of being re-elected. How’d he do last night in Iowa? I don’t think people are buying it anymore. Credit card debt is now the highest in history. Eventually the card gets maxed out, then the real cuts start. That is what is important to most people.

CBreezy 01-16-2024 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3752758)
If people really believed what you said was true, Trump would have no chance of being re-elected. How’d he do last night in Iowa? I don’t think people are buying it anymore. Credit card debt is now the highest in history. Eventually the card gets maxed out, then the real cuts start. That is what is important to most people.

Cults are powerful and nonsensical. The vast majority of people he appointed as an ally have come out and called him unfit and dangerous. But, you all like mean tweets. So, this is the candidate we all get.

A moderate Republican would win the White House in a landslide.

SideStickMonkey 01-16-2024 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3752758)
If people really believed what you said was true, Trump would have no chance of being re-elected. How’d he do last night in Iowa? I don’t think people are buying it anymore. Credit card debt is now the highest in history. Eventually the card gets maxed out, then the real cuts start. That is what is important to most people.

Because the Republican Party has become a cult

myrkridia 01-16-2024 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3752761)
A moderate Republican would win the White House in a landslide.

But wouldn't stand a chance in the primaries.

Bucking Bar 01-16-2024 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3752758)
If people really believed what you said was true, Trump would have no chance of being re-elected. How’d he do last night in Iowa? I don’t think people are buying it anymore. Credit card debt is now the highest in history. Eventually the card gets maxed out, then the real cuts start. That is what is important to most people.

Touche'

... what does that say about Ron DeSantis?

& what does the low voter turn out & historically low numbers for an incumbent predict? (probably not much of anything)

Jerome Powell took away the punch bowl ((free money)) to lower inflation (now 3.2% w/ full employment and real wage gains). Lowering the Fed rate, rationally, seems to be helping everyone.

A good case could be made that the old Joe Biden is what used to be a moderate Republican. Back when he was a lawyer, he worked for a Republican lobbying firm.

CBreezy 01-16-2024 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by myrkridia (Post 3752765)
But wouldn't stand a chance in the primaries.

Right. Only 20% of the most die-hard partisans are choosing candidates to run.

Bucking Bar 01-16-2024 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3752768)
Right. Only 20% of the most die-hard partisans are choosing candidates to run.

Just curious, have any of us here been recruited to run for office?

It is flattering, but that blush wears off in about ten seconds.

Being a Delta pilot seems to be a whole lot better gig.

notEnuf 01-16-2024 07:46 AM

Would either Nikki or Ron accept VP? When Trump gets decimated it will stain thier ambitions. I can't wait for the day one dictator, gonna be great... again. :/

CBreezy 01-16-2024 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3752773)
Just curious, have any of us here been recruited to run for office?

It is flattering, but that blush wears off in about ten seconds.

Being a Delta pilot seems to be a whole lot better gig.

I've always said I think they need to extend USSERA to apply, at least in some extent, to public office. The only people who can run for office in local state or national elections effectively have to be independently wealthy or give up their career for their new one.

To be a Georgia state rep, you make $22k a year.

Bucking Bar 01-16-2024 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3752775)
Would either Nikki or Ron accept VP? When Trump gets decimated it will stain thier ambitions. I can't wait for the day one dictator, gonna be great... again. :/

That was going pretty well for a political thread... and it is open again :-)

My $ is on Kristi Noem. She checks the boxes if this were a rational decision.

Trump does not want anyone who is going to steal any policy spotlight. Nor does he plan on there being a need for any successor. Is anyone else surprised he has not announced Don Jr.?

Maybe the 92 indictments and the civil cases in NYC have had a chilling effect. Jared's lower profile millions (closing in on billions) are warm & cozy.

Tfork 01-16-2024 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3752758)
If people really believed what you said was true, Trump would have no chance of being re-elected. How’d he do last night in Iowa? I don’t think people are buying it anymore. Credit card debt is now the highest in history. Eventually the card gets maxed out, then the real cuts start. That is what is important to most people.

Uh, people do believe that because it all happened. Polls have shown 60% of the republican party doesn't belive it though. Yes, it's a cult.

m3113n1a1 01-16-2024 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3752761)
A moderate Republican would win the White House in a landslide.

Yep. John McCain or Mitt Romney would destroy Biden this year I think. Even George W. Bush probably would.


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