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#171
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 409
Exactly! Other dumb traditions:
Captains buying coffee or meals or drinks
Captains offering the 1st meal choice to the FO
Captains doing walk arounds
Captains climbimg in the back of the van so the FO can get in easier
Captains offering various legs so the FOs don't do all of the hub landings
Captains doing more than their specified job to ease the time constraints on the FO
Screw dumb traditions
Captains buying coffee or meals or drinks
Captains offering the 1st meal choice to the FO
Captains doing walk arounds
Captains climbimg in the back of the van so the FO can get in easier
Captains offering various legs so the FOs don't do all of the hub landings
Captains doing more than their specified job to ease the time constraints on the FO
Screw dumb traditions
#173
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,191
Exactly! Other dumb traditions:
Captains buying coffee or meals or drinks
Captains offering the 1st meal choice to the FO
Captains doing walk arounds
Captains climbimg in the back of the van so the FO can get in easier
Captains offering various legs so the FOs don't do all of the hub landings
Captains doing more than their specified job to ease the time constraints on the FO
Screw dumb traditions
Captains buying coffee or meals or drinks
Captains offering the 1st meal choice to the FO
Captains doing walk arounds
Captains climbimg in the back of the van so the FO can get in easier
Captains offering various legs so the FOs don't do all of the hub landings
Captains doing more than their specified job to ease the time constraints on the FO
Screw dumb traditions
It wasn't in the FOM. Stupid me.
Some places you go, they understand the heirarchy of top line and second line. Sometimes they only have two rooms. One has an ocean view, the other doesn't. They sometimes put the room numbers on the sign in sheet giving the "best room" on the top line... purposely.
I once showed up at the hotel and there were 2 total rooms vacant for the night. One of the rooms was the vice presidential suite at $1500/night with breakfast service...the other was just the standard rack room. As the FO should I have just put my name on the top line thus scarfing up the primo room because.... well, it's not in the FOM?
Old Narita layover. The bad rooms were in the dungeon...only 1 electrical outlet for whole room and it was reamed out so the plugs would not stay in unless propped up. They also flooded and smelled of mildew. The "good rooms" were in the tower, get a high enough floor and not only did you get 4 or 5 plugs, you even got a heated toilet seat. Took me while to catch on to how the game was played there. Personally, I DGAS and preferred "the dungeon", but I have heard stories of those that did have preferences.
Some international destinations, the sign-in area is crowded, so the other pilots go sit down and drink their provided coffee/hot chocolate and scones while 1 crew member signs them in.
Oh, that printable trip sheet thingy. Till the very last trip, I printed them out and wrote everyones employee number on them and left then in the seats of all 3-4 pilots. If they didn't want it they could throw it away. But it was availabe on sign in for everyones use if desired. It also set a tone that, as a captain, I was part of a "team".
The guys that I shied away from buying beers for or ditched were the guys that made my life difficult. I already know a few responses here will be...they don't expect it, so BFD. It goes both ways. Those PITS captains were prolly PITA copilots.
Sometimes, traditions can be nice.
#174
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Joined APC: May 2011
Posts: 402
Glad no one was hurt most importantly.
(good to redirect and get back to the original topic)
#175
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,249
Exactly! Other dumb traditions:
Captains buying coffee or meals or drinks
Captains offering the 1st meal choice to the FO
Captains doing walk arounds
Captains climbimg in the back of the van so the FO can get in easier
Captains offering various legs so the FOs don't do all of the hub landings
Captains doing more than their specified job to ease the time constraints on the FO
Screw dumb traditions
Captains buying coffee or meals or drinks
Captains offering the 1st meal choice to the FO
Captains doing walk arounds
Captains climbimg in the back of the van so the FO can get in easier
Captains offering various legs so the FOs don't do all of the hub landings
Captains doing more than their specified job to ease the time constraints on the FO
Screw dumb traditions
#176
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,048
Yea....I was a schmuck because I did all this as a captain.
It wasn't in the FOM. Stupid me.
Some places you go, they understand the heirarchy of top line and second line. Sometimes they only have two rooms. One has an ocean view, the other doesn't. They sometimes put the room numbers on the sign in sheet giving the "best room" on the top line... purposely.
I once showed up at the hotel and there were 2 total rooms vacant for the night. One of the rooms was the vice presidential suite at $1500/night with breakfast service...the other was just the standard rack room. As the FO should I have just put my name on the top line thus scarfing up the primo room because.... well, it's not in the FOM?
Old Narita layover. The bad rooms were in the dungeon...only 1 electrical outlet for whole room and it was reamed out so the plugs would not stay in unless propped up. They also flooded and smelled of mildew. The "good rooms" were in the tower, get a high enough floor and not only did you get 4 or 5 plugs, you even got a heated toilet seat. Took me while to catch on to how the game was played there. Personally, I DGAS and preferred "the dungeon", but I have heard stories of those that did have preferences.
Some international destinations, the sign-in area is crowded, so the other pilots go sit down and drink their provided coffee/hot chocolate and scones while 1 crew member signs them in.
Oh, that printable trip sheet thingy. Till the very last trip, I printed them out and wrote everyones employee number on them and left then in the seats of all 3-4 pilots. If they didn't want it they could throw it away. But it was availabe on sign in for everyones use if desired. It also set a tone that, as a captain, I was part of a "team".
The guys that I shied away from buying beers for or ditched were the guys that made my life difficult. I already know a few responses here will be...they don't expect it, so BFD. It goes both ways. Those PITS captains were prolly PITA copilots.
Sometimes, traditions can be nice.
It wasn't in the FOM. Stupid me.
Some places you go, they understand the heirarchy of top line and second line. Sometimes they only have two rooms. One has an ocean view, the other doesn't. They sometimes put the room numbers on the sign in sheet giving the "best room" on the top line... purposely.
I once showed up at the hotel and there were 2 total rooms vacant for the night. One of the rooms was the vice presidential suite at $1500/night with breakfast service...the other was just the standard rack room. As the FO should I have just put my name on the top line thus scarfing up the primo room because.... well, it's not in the FOM?
Old Narita layover. The bad rooms were in the dungeon...only 1 electrical outlet for whole room and it was reamed out so the plugs would not stay in unless propped up. They also flooded and smelled of mildew. The "good rooms" were in the tower, get a high enough floor and not only did you get 4 or 5 plugs, you even got a heated toilet seat. Took me while to catch on to how the game was played there. Personally, I DGAS and preferred "the dungeon", but I have heard stories of those that did have preferences.
Some international destinations, the sign-in area is crowded, so the other pilots go sit down and drink their provided coffee/hot chocolate and scones while 1 crew member signs them in.
Oh, that printable trip sheet thingy. Till the very last trip, I printed them out and wrote everyones employee number on them and left then in the seats of all 3-4 pilots. If they didn't want it they could throw it away. But it was availabe on sign in for everyones use if desired. It also set a tone that, as a captain, I was part of a "team".
The guys that I shied away from buying beers for or ditched were the guys that made my life difficult. I already know a few responses here will be...they don't expect it, so BFD. It goes both ways. Those PITS captains were prolly PITA copilots.
Sometimes, traditions can be nice.
#177
No they don't. The hotel staff really doesn't put tht much effort. The just have rooms for crews. No minimum wage employee working at 1am is thinking about captai vs. FO rooms. And even if a roo had a better view, do you really need that? Do you also demand a discount when you buy a pack of gum the next day?
#178
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Joined APC: Jul 2022
Posts: 727
No they don't. The hotel staff really doesn't put tht much effort. The just have rooms for crews. No minimum wage employee working at 1am is thinking about captai vs. FO rooms. And even if a roo had a better view, do you really need that? Do you also demand a discount when you buy a pack of gum the next day?
Heck, about half of all TSA agents don’t know the difference between captain and FO, despite working at airports all day. I routinely heard “Good morning captain” from them, even while wearing 3 stripes.
#179
The guys that I shied away from buying beers for or ditched were the guys that made my life difficult. I already know a few responses here will be...they don't expect it, so BFD. It goes both ways. Those PITS captains were prolly PITA copilots.
Sometimes, traditions can be nice.
Sometimes, traditions can be nice.
Can't even imagine what that poor Breezy guy must be going through to self-immolate on not one, but multiple threads. Might take a couple of beverages to soothe that individual.
#180
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: Looking left
Posts: 3,286