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01-28-2024, 01:22 PM
#201
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,001
Originally Posted by TED74
Are you saying new FOs literally aren’t touching the logbook, or they’re not writing in it unless directed? I’m confident you don’t mean the former, but wanted to clarify.
01-28-2024, 01:45 PM
#202
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Most look at it at least, and if they don't I make sure to hand it to them. But very few write our flight in it. Or offer to put write ups in.. like I said, totally fine, just a trend I'm noticing.
01-28-2024, 03:01 PM
#203
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Posts: 745
Originally Posted by Fastpilot
Which base/fleet? NYC 7ER, 99% of FOs put the flight in the book
01-28-2024, 03:29 PM
#204
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Position: 320A
Posts: 909
Originally Posted by myrkridia
I've been told that it's something unique to the 320 fleet culture, that everywhere else it tends to be FOs who fill the logbook.
01-28-2024, 03:49 PM
#205
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Position: NYC 7ERA
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
Correct on the 320 the CA has always put the flight number in the logbook.
01-28-2024, 03:58 PM
#206
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Posts: 927
Originally Posted by CX500T
I guess being out of the cockpit for over 2 years when I went to 320 CA training made it so I didn't notice the change (was ER FO, then UNA, then mil leave, then NQAT, then picked up 320A then waited for that)
01-28-2024, 05:16 PM
#207
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Not sure about the ER/400, but when the decison was made at the LCP/Training meeting that DL was going to go to independent (and silet) WDR review without making pen marks, the 737 Lead said 'pound sand, we are going to continue to do it challenge/response style like we have been doing it'
It honestly sucks how it’s nonstandard across the fleets, even though the Vol 1 procedure is standardized across the fleets.
And making marks is discouraged due to expectation bias, but that is just technique.
01-28-2024, 05:24 PM
#208
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: A320 Left seat
Posts: 2,580
Originally Posted by Viper25
ER does it like the 737.
It honestly sucks how it’s nonstandard across the fleets, even though the Vol 1 procedure is standardized across the fleets.
And making marks is discouraged due to expectation bias, but that is just technique.
It honestly sucks how it’s nonstandard across the fleets, even though the Vol 1 procedure is standardized across the fleets.
And making marks is discouraged due to expectation bias, but that is just technique.
I did most of my FO time on the MD88 and 7ER and always took care of the book and then upgraded to A320 and have always had to take care of the book. I tell my FO's if they don't want to ever have to deal with the logbook, they need to upgrade to the 737 or 7ER and they'll never have to deal with the logbook, except for the cursory check over each flight or aircraft change. 🤣
01-28-2024, 07:59 PM
#210
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
I've been told that it's something unique to the 320 fleet culture, that everywhere else it tends to be FOs who fill the logbook.
Gosh....how unusual. Wish I understood it, or could offer any possible explanations or solutions.
But, all you new guys got it figured out.
At least some are understanding the questions. That is a step in the right direction.
Every CAiry pilot can do it their own way, because...."reasons, by God".
Kinda reminds me of the hotel sign in sheet.
M311...don't let the scarcasm go over "your head" as per usual. ;>
Got my raincoat and hat on for the ensuing yellow rain.
