Extended Duty Pay
02-02-2024, 12:09 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Mu situation was this:
One leg early (report time around 0430) last day back to base. So 4-ish hours original duty period. Right when I woke up got the call with the pushed back report time (which ended up getting pushed back further). Ended up actually showing to the airport around 1400. Icrew showed pay/actual report time of 0430, with an airport report time of 1400. With further delays endup blocking in after 1800. I got paid ~4.5 hours of EDP. According to F. Wallace, the "Lead Delta MEC Scheduling Specialist" via dart, EDP is based on the Pay Report Time.
One leg early (report time around 0430) last day back to base. So 4-ish hours original duty period. Right when I woke up got the call with the pushed back report time (which ended up getting pushed back further). Ended up actually showing to the airport around 1400. Icrew showed pay/actual report time of 0430, with an airport report time of 1400. With further delays endup blocking in after 1800. I got paid ~4.5 hours of EDP. According to F. Wallace, the "Lead Delta MEC Scheduling Specialist" via dart, EDP is based on the Pay Report Time.
02-02-2024, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
Then we're getting different answers from the same source (ALPA).
But you’re not…
tennisguru’d situation: no reroute. Just delayed report, same legs. contract says greater of actual or scheduled. He was scheduled for… say… 2 hours EDP. With the delay, he got more, since that’s actual.
OP had a reroute which modified his rotation including report for the day. He got the greater of scheduled *rotation guarantee* or actual flown. EDP absorbs. See previous quoted language from SRH.
02-02-2024, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
But you’re not…
tennisguru’d situation: no reroute. Just delayed report, same legs. contract says greater of actual or scheduled. He was scheduled for… say… 2 hours EDP. With the delay, he got more, since that’s actual.
OP had a reroute which modified his rotation including report for the day. He got the greater of scheduled *rotation guarantee* or actual flown. EDP absorbs. See previous quoted language from SRH.
tennisguru’d situation: no reroute. Just delayed report, same legs. contract says greater of actual or scheduled. He was scheduled for… say… 2 hours EDP. With the delay, he got more, since that’s actual.
OP had a reroute which modified his rotation including report for the day. He got the greater of scheduled *rotation guarantee* or actual flown. EDP absorbs. See previous quoted language from SRH.
02-02-2024, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
But you’re not…
tennisguru’d situation: no reroute. Just delayed report, same legs. contract says greater of actual or scheduled. He was scheduled for… say… 2 hours EDP. With the delay, he got more, since that’s actual.
OP had a reroute which modified his rotation including report for the day. He got the greater of scheduled *rotation guarantee* or actual flown. EDP absorbs. See previous quoted language from SRH.
tennisguru’d situation: no reroute. Just delayed report, same legs. contract says greater of actual or scheduled. He was scheduled for… say… 2 hours EDP. With the delay, he got more, since that’s actual.
OP had a reroute which modified his rotation including report for the day. He got the greater of scheduled *rotation guarantee* or actual flown. EDP absorbs. See previous quoted language from SRH.
02-02-2024, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder
Early pickup. Just after the alarm(s) went off the phone rang. Robo call, flight delayed 6 hours. Went back to sleep. RR'd to a later flight to layover on leg 2.
Rotation showed pay report at 0445. Actual report at 0445. Airport report at 1052.
13:35 duty day based on pay and actual report. Put in for 3:35 EDP through crew assist. Called the union to get some clarification. They said it's based on the airport report time.
No soup for you.
At least we got to sleep in.
Rotation showed pay report at 0445. Actual report at 0445. Airport report at 1052.
13:35 duty day based on pay and actual report. Put in for 3:35 EDP through crew assist. Called the union to get some clarification. They said it's based on the airport report time.
No soup for you.
At least we got to sleep in.
I’ve had the same thing happen a few times. They’ve even tried calling me at the gate to issue a new report time…BLUF: don’t answer and don’t acknowledge new report time. If you did, then no soup for you. If you never acknowledged, then mucha sopa para tù.
02-02-2024, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
That still doesn’t make sense because we both had RAP’s due to the delayed report. Yes the other guy got rerouted AFTER operating the delayed flight. I got paid for my RAP sit and he did not. In both cases we should be getting EDP from pay report time until release time for that day, at least according to the ALPA scheduling person I worked with.
Back to the quoted SRH- you’re given greater or scheduled or actual to include rotation guarantee. Your rotation value didn’t change so you kept the “greater” your scheduled sit as of rotation build.
OP kept greater of rerouted rotation or original. EDP absorbed into greater or. It doesn’t just magically pay on top of a change.
02-03-2024, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
I think the bigger mystery is why pilots who have no obligation to be contactable allow themselves to be.
02-04-2024, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by neodd
Does it count as a RAP? Waking up for a scheduled report and waking up for a RAP seem like they are separate things and since rest is prospective...
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