Boatbuilder

Early pickup. Just after the alarm(s) went off the phone rang. Robo call, flight delayed 6 hours. Went back to sleep. RR'd to a later flight to layover on leg 2.
Rotation showed pay report at 0445. Actual report at 0445. Airport report at 1052.
13:35 duty day based on pay and actual report. Put in for 3:35 EDP through crew assist. Called the union to get some clarification. They said it's based on the airport report time.
No soup for you.
At least we got to sleep in.

cencal83406

There is your problem. Once you are rerouted, that is considered “scheduled.” Since you acknowledged and reported at your airport report, your “scheduled” (airport report) duty time is what EDP is calculated from. The RAP will not count.

Boatbuilder

The RR was on leg 2 that day. We flew the original leg one flight, just 6 hours late.
Does that make a difference?

tennisguru

Just last week I got EDP on a delayed report based on the Pay/Actual (original) report time.

cencal83406

no… something changed during the day, you acknowledged prior to report. Your new scheduled day applies.

were you rerouted? Or just delayed report?

tennisguru

Delayed report. Plane never made it in the night before. ~6 hour delayed airport report. Full EDP based on original report/actual report/pay report until release (that leg was the final one of the rotation).

HelloNewnan

To the OP: That doesn't sound right. Whatever your duty day was is what counts towards EDP. Suggest a call back.

myrkridia

If I'm understanding correctly this situation, I sent a DART for this very issue and the OPs result was the same as mine. If you have a 0500 report time, moved to a 1000 airport report time, the EDP calculation will be based on the airport report time, since the original report time is a pseudo-RAP and only counts for a specific FAR 117 calculation. However, if as a result of this delay, you now have a shorter than 10h FDP that day and were originally scheduled or rerouted to have EDP, you should be pay protected for said EDP.
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cencal83406

The caveat to this whole thing is … what was the rerouted rotation worth? If it’s somehow worth less, the EDP that was part of the rotation build should still end up paying out to essentially make the rotation the same value (guarantee). If for some reason the rotation is worth more it’s entirely possible the the EDP is absorbed into the higher value.

“If a regular pilot is rerouted, the total value of their new rotation as flown (including any new applicable pay, no credit items) will be compared to the total value of their original rotation. The pilot will receive no less than the total value of their original rotation, with any difference being applied as pay and credit rotation guarantee.”

“If the pilot is rerouted such that they no longer operate a duty period greater than ten hours in length, the EDP Pay would no longer be reflected on the rotation. For a regular line holder, the total value of their new rotation as flown (including any new applicable pay, no credit items) would be compared to the total value of their original rotation. The pilot would receive no less than the total value of their original rotation, with any difference being applied as pay and credit rotation guarantee, plus pay, no credit for any applicable reroute pay.“

tennisguru

Mu situation was this:

One leg early (report time around 0430) last day back to base. So 4-ish hours original duty period. Right when I woke up got the call with the pushed back report time (which ended up getting pushed back further). Ended up actually showing to the airport around 1400. Icrew showed pay/actual report time of 0430, with an airport report time of 1400. With further delays endup blocking in after 1800. I got paid ~4.5 hours of EDP. According to F. Wallace, the "Lead Delta MEC Scheduling Specialist" via dart, EDP is based on the Pay Report Time.