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Old 09-20-2024 | 06:51 AM
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Kind of surprised there hasn't been much discussion about the C44 election...specifically, the strong support for SK, and very poor numbers for DA. Shockingly poor. C44 pilots must be tired of his arrogance and "single issue" fixation.

His humiliation level has got to be high. He's in serious danger of not getting re-elected, much less being the next C44 chairman. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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Old 09-20-2024 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptKochblauch
Kind of surprised there hasn't been much discussion about the C44 election...specifically, the strong support for SK, and very poor numbers for DA. Shockingly poor. C44 pilots must be tired of his arrogance and "single issue" fixation.

His humiliation level has got to be high. He's in serious danger of not getting re-elected, much less being the next C44 chairman. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
is DA running again? I thought he was gunning for MEC chair
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Old 09-20-2024 | 07:39 AM
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[Mod Input] Discussing the C44 nominees positions, statements, or votes are fair game. As are your civil opinions about individuals.

But fair warning, do not use insults or flamebait. Keep it civil.

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Old 09-20-2024 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
is DA running again? I thought he was gunning for MEC chair
He must not have the votes. the pilot group might have dodged a bullet.
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Old 09-20-2024 | 09:59 AM
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Glad to see the strong support for SK. Great asset to the pilot group.
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Old 09-20-2024 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
He must not have the votes. the pilot group might have dodged a bullet.
I was seriously disappointed by the turnout, but shouldn’t be at the same time.
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Old 09-20-2024 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
I was seriously disappointed by the turnout, but shouldn’t be at the same time.
Same, though it's in line with previous first round voting turnout. What's interesting is the contrast of candidates on the FO side, where fewer have raised their hand and the one with most votes in round one is more on the institutional side. I'm SK pilled but I think this is basically a popularity contest, where positions are mostly irrelevant and personality and vibes are front and center. I was not impressed with ME on the FO rep side, she spent so much time talking about the nonsense spread about her on social media and couldn't give one example of a time in the last 3 years where she dissented from C44.

Having said that I believe there's a strong chance for a split LEC come March, with 1 or 2 candidates favoring a more hardline approach vs the company and the rest having a tendency to play nice in favor of a working relationship. Despite the apparent allergic reaction the 9 have of any visible drama, I think it's a good thing that we might have different views represented on our most influential council.

The 9 like to pat themselves on the back for voting yes on a popular contract, but I don't think we would have landed on such a TA without the other side.
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Old 09-20-2024 | 12:31 PM
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So it’s batch size guy versus newspaper guy? Scylla and Charybdis I guess….

People seem to think highly of SK but I wouldn’t let him anywhere near a negotiating table after that stunt he pulled. At very least he needs to answer some hard questions about his role in pi$$ing away a golden piece of leverage.
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Old 09-20-2024 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
So it’s batch size guy versus newspaper guy? Scylla and Charybdis I guess….

People seem to think highly of SK but I wouldn’t let him anywhere near a negotiating table after that stunt he pulled. At very least he needs to answer some hard questions about his role in pi$$ing away a golden piece of leverage.
I'm curious, has anyone reached out to SK and asked specifically about it? I know he put out an email address and his phone number. I haven't asked him about it but I'm sure someone has
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Old 09-20-2024 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
Same, though it's in line with previous first round voting turnout. What's interesting is the contrast of candidates on the FO side, where fewer have raised their hand and the one with most votes in round one is more on the institutional side. I'm SK pilled but I think this is basically a popularity contest, where positions are mostly irrelevant and personality and vibes are front and center. I was not impressed with ME on the FO rep side, she spent so much time talking about the nonsense spread about her on social media and couldn't give one example of a time in the last 3 years where she dissented from C44.

Having said that I believe there's a strong chance for a split LEC come March, with 1 or 2 candidates favoring a more hardline approach vs the company and the rest having a tendency to play nice in favor of a working relationship. Despite the apparent allergic reaction the 9 have of any visible drama, I think it's a good thing that we might have different views represented on our most influential council.

The 9 like to pat themselves on the back for voting yes on a popular contract, but I don't think we would have landed on such a TA without the other side.
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Is it the 9 now? One is gone. The 9 is quite different. If ATL splits that weighs it more. Then you factor BOS coming online and it could go either way.
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