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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
You kinda lost me. Do the costs associated with home ownership(taxes, maintenance, roof, lawn care, water heater) just magically disappear by renting? Does the landlord just eat those costs or does he pass them on to the rentor plus the management fee?
seriously. for someone calling it a “math problem,” they sure forgot a term in their formula
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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
With respect, your perspective is incredibly skewed on this too. You don't think $240k/year is a lot of money? That's the top 2% of all earners.
You need $553,000 to be in the top 5% of earners in NYC. $470,000 to be top 5% in Florida. $487,000 in Georgia

you need at least $300,000 to be top 5% of earners in the USA now.
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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
20k a month plus the company putting an additional 17% into your 401k is a lot of money IMO.

Now if you're into the finer things in life, $800k house, 100k cars, Gucci, LV, Saks 5th Av, 3+ kids, one can quickly end up living paycheck to paycheck or Greenslip to Greenslip
A single family home in most states is $700-$800K now a days.. $800K home is basic how. You old timers are out of touch with what the real world is like now. And I’m talking about ATL area, which is relatively low cost of living. You can get a condo or town home for $400K - $500K+ in most places that are good areas

you need $1mm to get a single family home in Northern VA.
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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
A single family home in most states is $700-$800K now a days.. $800K home is basic how. You old timers are out of touch with what the real world is like now. And I’m talking about ATL area, which is relatively low cost of living. You can get a condo or town home for $400K - $500K+ in most places that are good areas
Why does everyone need a big ass house with a backyard and 4 bedrooms? Townhouses are the perfect size imho.
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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
A single family home in most states is $700-$800K now a days.. $800K home is basic how. You old timers are out of touch with what the real world is like now. And I’m talking about ATL area, which is relatively low cost of living. You can get a condo or town home for $400K - $500K+ in most places that are good areas

you need $1mm to get a single family home in Northern VA.
Not buying the narrative. I’m not old timer, I’m 36 and can find decent size homes in ATL for 600ish. To be more specific PTC.

The issue is that people want house, 2 new cars, living large and having vacations. I’m all up for higher interest rates, people need to let go of THINGS…

We need to stop making us seem as we have money and actually use the money to create wealth. Get rid of social media and start living life.
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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Why does everyone need a big ass house with a backyard and 4 bedrooms? Townhouses are the perfect size imho.
a 4 bedroom house isn’t big lol.. imagine if you have more than 2 kids? And someone working from home.. I don’t know anyone that prefers to share walls or walking out on their deck and being able to shake hands with their neighbor. America has a huge housing shortage. You can go to Japan or Italy and buy a house for $1
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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Why does everyone need a big ass house with a backyard and 4 bedrooms? Townhouses are the perfect size imho.
Three dogs. Dirtbikes. Not wanting to hear every time the neighbors fight, watch a movie, or smell what they are cooking.

I grew up living in literally a closet under the stairs. And spent over a decade either on a boat or in barracks/clu/chu.

Never again.
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Old 10-28-2024 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Not buying the narrative. I’m not old timer, I’m 36 and can find decent size homes in ATL for 600ish. To be more specific PTC.

The issue is that people want house, 2 new cars, living large and having vacations. I’m all up for higher interest rates, people need to let go of THINGS…

We need to stop making us seem as we have money and actually use the money to create wealth. Get rid of social media and start living life.
high interest rates were fine when a home cost $250 - $400k for a home, not $600K + just to get started

If I had kids, PTC would be a good place for me. Being young and single, not so much.
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Old 10-28-2024 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
high interest rates were fine when a home cost $250 - $400k for a home, not $600K + just to get started

If I had kids, PTC would be a good place for me. Being young and single, not so much.
So, you’re young, single and looking for a 800k home. Got it…
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Old 10-28-2024 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
You kinda lost me. Do the costs associated with home ownership(taxes, maintenance, roof, lawn care, water heater) just magically disappear by renting? Does the landlord just eat those costs or does he pass them on to the rentor plus the management fee?

It is a math problem. There are certainly times it's better to rent than buy, especially when you consider many don't stay in home for more than 10-15 years. What many people fail to factor in is the true interest rate of your loan if you don't hold it for the full term and how much the cost of ownership adds up, even if you get some nice appreciation. Other fators are the amount of money your initial down payment could make them if they had invested in real estate or even just the S&P over a 10 year period. I'm generally in the buy camp, but certainly are plenty of situation where renting is a much smarter option.


Originally Posted by 170Till5
A single family home in most states is $700-$800K now a days.. $800K home is basic how. You old timers are out of touch with what the real world is like now. And I’m talking about ATL area, which is relatively low cost of living. You can get a condo or town home for $400K - $500K+ in most places that are good areas

you need $1mm to get a single family home in Northern VA.

Woah, $800k home is basic? Dang, I'm glad I don't live there. $800k here will get you a brand new 4-5 bed/4-5 bath, 3,000+ sq ft home with a big yard, a pool/hot tub, outdoor party space with a 3 car garage, in one of the nicest parts of town. You could probably get that for $550-700k actually.


Originally Posted by 170Till5
a 4 bedroom house isn’t big lol.. imagine if you have more than 2 kids? And someone working from home.. I don’t know anyone that prefers to share walls or walking out on their deck and being able to shake hands with their neighbor. America has a huge housing shortage. You can go to Japan or Italy and buy a house for $1

Lol wut? IDK man, most 4 bedroom houses I see today are McMansions. Of course, I grew up in a 1,300 sq ft, 3bd/1 bath home with two sisters, so most everything is big in comparison.
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