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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3935064)
We did exactly that. The company opened the first test base in MCO and the pilots bid and were awarded the base. Just as the first monthly bid were going to be posted DALPA unilaterally pulled the program down. That was our contractual right. It also probably insures the company will have little interest in a new process for easier bases.
WHEREAS MOU #16-03 – Virtual Basing & Temporary Duty allows the Company to establish a virtual base and/or temporary duty on a test basis, and WHEREAS Delta recently announced its intention to open a 7ER virtual base in MCO for the June 2018 bid period, and WHEREAS MOU #16-03 provides that either party may terminate MOU #16-03 effective with the first bid period that begins at least 45 days after termination notice has been given, and WHEREAS the Delta MEC met in session to debate and deliberate the potential advantages and disadvantages of virtual basing and/or temporary duty, and WHEREAS after careful thought and consideration, the Delta MEC has concluded that virtual basing and temporary duty are not in the best interest of the Delta pilots. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED the Delta MEC has concluded that virtual basing and temporary duty are not in the best interest of the Delta pilots, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED the Delta MEC directs the Delta MEC Chairman to exercise the termination provision of MOU #16-03, and immediately notify the Company of such termination |
Originally Posted by igotgummed
(Post 3935066)
Hey, you knew what the pay rates were when you got hired, why expend negotiating capital trying to get higher pay rates?
Now, see how dumb that logic sounds? He don’t see. I say we trade payback days for positive space commuting and additional bases. PB days do me no good as a commuter, and it will take substantial negotiating capital to keep them. Pin pulled, grenade tossed …. Minds blown in 3…2…1…. |
Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
(Post 3935062)
Like what?
And why? Everyone knew what the Delta bases were when they got hired. Why expend negotiating capital? Hoping for a base near your home? i knew what the trip construction rules were when i got hired but i still think we can have better rules. i knew what the green slip trigger was when i got hired but i am glad its lower now. i knew what the uniform looked like when i got here but still want to ditch the hat i knew what vacation paid when i got here but still want it to pay more |
Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 3935068)
But that isn’t the full story about it, is it?
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Originally Posted by igotgummed
(Post 3935066)
Hey, you knew what the pay rates were when you got hired, why expend negotiating capital trying to get higher pay rates?
Now, see how dumb that logic sounds? |
Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
(Post 3935078)
I say we trade payback days for positive space commuting and additional bases. PB days do me no good as a commuter, and it will take substantial negotiating capital to keep them. . |
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
(Post 3935084)
While I agree with that logic. But what exactly would anyone think they can put in the contract to force the company to open and staff other bases?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3935064)
We did exactly that. The company opened the first test base in MCO and the pilots bid and were awarded the base. Just as the first monthly bid were going to be posted DALPA unilaterally pulled the program down. That was our contractual right. It also probably insures the company will have little interest in a new process for easier bases.
WHEREAS MOU #16-03 – Virtual Basing & Temporary Duty allows the Company to establish a virtual base and/or temporary duty on a test basis, and WHEREAS Delta recently announced its intention to open a 7ER virtual base in MCO for the June 2018 bid period, and WHEREAS MOU #16-03 provides that either party may terminate MOU #16-03 effective with the first bid period that begins at least 45 days after termination notice has been given, and WHEREAS the Delta MEC met in session to debate and deliberate the potential advantages and disadvantages of virtual basing and/or temporary duty, and WHEREAS after careful thought and consideration, the Delta MEC has concluded that virtual basing and temporary duty are not in the best interest of the Delta pilots. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED the Delta MEC has concluded that virtual basing and temporary duty are not in the best interest of the Delta pilots, and BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED the Delta MEC directs the Delta MEC Chairman to exercise the termination provision of MOU #16-03, and immediately notify the Company of such termination All I know is when I retire (which is coming soon), I'm deleting everything delta related; union emails, contract stuff, etc. all of it. Gone. I'm done, never looking back. I'm putting a new trolling motor on the boat and will be gone. I'm going to enjoy my retirement. |
Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
(Post 3935062)
Like what?
And why? Everyone knew what the Delta bases were when they got hired. Why expend negotiating capital? Hoping for a base near your home? |
Originally Posted by igotgummed
(Post 3935087)
It’s been done before. Virtual Bases.
And they weren't "new bases." They could perpetually float and hose permanent base pilots to an unknown but definitely negative degree. |
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