are you suggesting that climate change is bringing more weather extremes to places that aren’t used to it?

Uhh no.

From the article:

"According to a report by think-tank Ember last week, renewable energy sources generated more electricity than coal for the first time in the first half of 2025"

It's comparing to coal only. Not nat gas or nuke energy. They are also including hydro generated power in there as well, not just wind and solar.

Also, wind and solar still have the same issues we've discussed here. They are not reliable. They are incredibly costly and they require huge amounts of land and space.

Yes, meant to add that part as the discussion was heavy on coal. Nevertheless, most definitely not a 'small percentage' as you falsely hope.

Also from the article, we are nearing tipping points & thresholds from global warming sooner than thought. So we'd better keep working on renewables.

Electricity price per kilowatt hour in the USA=$.18
In Denmark=$.36

Hence my original point is that wind energy isn’t reliable, doesn’t make money and is very expensive.

Watching FoxBusiness right now and they just said how China going big into solar, because the rest of the world is sour on solar and China is left with massive product that they can’t move. So they’re forcing solar onto their grid so it doesn’t go to waste.


Also about sea level rise…. We are right at the 2mm/yr rise over the past 100+ years. Right at the norm. It’s not increasing. S Florida land is subsiding due to 2 reasons. 1) post glacial land rebound. 2) They’ve pulled so much ground water out of the underground basins, the land is sinking.

No, you didn't mean to add that part. You posted the link, didn't bother to read the article thoroughly, and when I called you out for it then you have this sudden recall.

This has been an interesting discussion, It's managed to stay relatively civil. Which is nice for a change. However, I don't think we're changing any minds here so at this time I'll respectfully bow out.

Wind isn't reliable yet makes up >50% of Denmark's energy production.

Have you let all the investors that are putting money into wind power around the world that it doesn't make money? They'd probably like to know that.

And those dirty hippies at NASA and sea level change..

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/jason-...-rise-in-2024/

The Earth's oceans are also getting warmer, what happens to water when it gets warmer....

https://wattsupwiththat.com/climate_...-every-decade/

I just want to add one thing. I'm not opposed and I'd argue that most people aren't opposed to nuclear or having some level of fossil fuel plants. But the analogy I'm going to make it what I'm hearing.

Imagine if this discussion was occuring in 1920 over airplanes. Liberals would be arguing that airplanes would be like flying super hotels, trains would be obsolete and everyone would just fly to work every day. Conservatives would be saying airplanes are impractical because they can only carry a few people and so any further investment or research is a complete waste of time. Rail and trolleys are the future. Neither of them are right

Speaking of a not science website

We’ve as US citizens have paid trillions into the coffers of companies doing green work. It was (thankfully past tense) called the Agency for International Development (US AID). It was a runaway rogue entity that became too powerful and squandered trillions of US tax money over the many decades it was present. Look it up. Recently shut down. Anyone will build anything if it’s subsidized to not cost the developer money. In fact most of the green projects, including the molten salt solar mess in the Kali desert were totally subsidized by you and me! Total failure it’s been. But I guarantee you the developer made millions, if not more off it.