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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3961347)
the pilot payout calculation is in the pwa, and defines our payout as a percentage of ptix. that noncons get matched does not affect that %/ptix calculation.
the PWA lays this out in 3.I. The PS pool is determined by looking at DL’s PTIX, for all profit under 2.5B, 10% is added to the pool, for all profit over, 20% is added. Once the PS pool size is determined, that number is divided by the total wage base for all DL employees to determine the %. or looking at it another way, you are entitled to the same % of the PS pool as your earnings were of the total earnings pool. If the wage base goes up, the PS% goes down. FAs and ground based employees are factored into the wage base. “ individual employee’s annual compensation in the year in which the PTIX was earned as a percentage of total annual compensation for that year for all employees eligible for (a) the Delta Air Lines, Inc. annual profit-sharing plan or (b) the Delta Air Lines, Inc. Annual profit-sharing plan for ground and flight attendant employees” that’s right out of the PWA, it includes everyone eligible for management bonuses and FA’s and ground based employees in the wage base calculation. |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3961352)
again, this is not correct.
the PWA lays this out in 3.I. The PS pool is determined by looking at DL’s PTIX, for all profit under 2.5B, 10% is added to the pool, for all profit over, 20% is added. Once the PS pool size is determined, that number is divided by the total wage base for all DL employees to determine the %. or looking at it another way, you are entitled to the same % of the PS pool as your earnings were of the total earnings pool. If the wage base goes up, the PS% goes down. FAs and ground based employees are factored into the wage base. “ individual employee’s annual compensation in the year in which the PTIX was earned as a percentage of total annual compensation for that year for all employees eligible for (a) the Delta Air Lines, Inc. annual profit-sharing plan or (b) the Delta Air Lines, Inc. Annual profit-sharing plan for ground and flight attendant employees” that’s right out of the PWA, it includes everyone eligible for management bonuses and FA’s and ground based employees in the wage base calculation. |
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3961357)
i appreciate the correction, and apologize if i misled anyone with my poor understanding
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We get profit sharing off our bonus last year too right?
(No we dont just getting the question out of the way now since people are gonna ask) perdiem amounts go into my wages for profit sharing too right? My wife gave me a 1000 in cash, i get profit sharing off that too right? |
Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
(Post 3961370)
We get profit sharing off our bonus last year too right?
(No we dont just getting the question out of the way now since people are gonna ask) perdiem amounts go into my wages for profit sharing too right? My wife gave me a 1000 in cash, i get profit sharing off that too right? |
Originally Posted by GutterGuard
(Post 3961371)
If we shut down every repetitive or glaringly obvious question, there'd be nothing left on the internet but porn.
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3961352)
again, this is not correct.
the PWA lays this out in 3.I. The PS pool is determined by looking at DL’s PTIX, for all profit under 2.5B, 10% is added to the pool, for all profit over, 20% is added. Once the PS pool size is determined, that number is divided by the total wage base for all DL employees to determine the %. or looking at it another way, you are entitled to the same % of the PS pool as your earnings were of the total earnings pool. If the wage base goes up, the PS% goes down. FAs and ground based employees are factored into the wage base. “ individual employee’s annual compensation in the year in which the PTIX was earned as a percentage of total annual compensation for that year for all employees eligible for (a) the Delta Air Lines, Inc. annual profit-sharing plan or (b) the Delta Air Lines, Inc. Annual profit-sharing plan for ground and flight attendant employees” that’s right out of the PWA, it includes everyone eligible for management bonuses and FA’s and ground based employees in the wage base calculation. In this way, there is zero reason for the company NOT to extend the “right thing to do” to the whole “family”. They have to pay the exact same pool regardless of who/how many gets it due to the PWA. If I’m management, it makes me look super magnanimous even though my (mgmt) cost is unaffected. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3961381)
Said another way, if the noncons did not get PS at all, their portion of the pool would be divided amongst the pilots.
In this way, there is zero reason for the company NOT to extend the “right thing to do” to the whole “family”. They have to pay the exact same pool regardless of who/how many gets it due to the PWA. If I’m management, it makes me look super magnanimous even though my (mgmt) cost is unaffected. if they excluded the non cons, our PS last year would have been closer to 25% (assuming we are about 40% of total payroll) |
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
(Post 3961392)
I never thought of it that way, but it makes total sense.
if they excluded the non cons, our PS last year would have been closer to 25% (assuming we are about 40% of total payroll) |
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
(Post 3961394)
Why does the PWA include other work groups? It should be written that this PS pool is just for pilots!
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