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Nantonaku 10-09-2025 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3958208)
Everything is probably going to be fine, because it always is, but there are worrying signs.

Inflation is ticking higher, the dollar has lost a significant amount of value this year, unemployment is steadily increasing, hiring has slowed to a crawl, diplomatic relations are worse than I have ever seen (global sentiment is that the US is an absolute joke now), tourism to the US is down, crony capitalism is rampant, socialism is starting to creep in (trumprx.com, subsidies to farmers, public investment in private companies like Nvidia), agricultural exports are at an all time low, and I know you don't think tariffs are inflationary or reduce GDP, but it's pretty much an undisputed fact amongst economists. Tariffs are sticky too and the damage is long term.

Now will Delta be able to navigate all this and remain profitable? Probably. But there are definitely headwinds and VCTS.

So nothing has changed the last decade? What are you doing with your money? I made all these same points early in the Biden administration and people asked me what I was doing with my money. I told them I was going hard into gold. So I ask you, if you believe what you wrote then what are you doing with your money?

SideStickMonkey 10-09-2025 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3958157)
..consumer confidence is strong.

Consumer confidence is actually pretty low.


“Consumer confidence weakened in September, declining to the lowest level since April 2025,” said Stephanie Guichard, Senior Economist, Global Indicators at The Conference Board. “The present situation component registered its largest drop in a year. Consumers’ assessment of business conditions was much less positive than in recent months, while their appraisal of current job availability fell for the ninth straight month to reach a new multiyear low. This is consistent with the decline in job openings. Expectations also weakened in September, but to a lesser extent. Consumers were a bit more pessimistic about future job availability and future business conditions but optimism about future income increased, mitigating the overall decline in the Expectations Index.”


Not everything is rosy. Tariffs still have not come into full effect. Consumer prices are still high, wages are still pretty level.

Tech stocks are driving the markets. And that’s on the back of AI. When the AI bubble bursts so do the tech stocks and so does the market.


PotatoChip 10-10-2025 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3958220)
Consumer confidence is actually pretty low.



Not everything is rosy. Tariffs still have not come into full effect. Consumer prices are still high, wages are still pretty level.

Tech stocks are driving the markets. And that’s on the back of AI. When the AI bubble bursts so do the tech stocks and so does the market.

If/when the AI bubble bursts we have lost the robot wars and are already dead.

StoneQOLdCrazy 10-10-2025 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by texas1970 (Post 3958190)
Do you think increased detentions of foreigners by CBP is popular among foreign tourists? Do you think “exposing climate change hysteria” is popular abroad where climate change is essentially universally accepted? Do you think “leveling the playing field” with other countries is popular in other countries?

Who cares?

Haven’t we had enough pandering to foreign countries who just laugh at us and take advantage of us?

Meme In Command 10-10-2025 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3958251)
Who cares?

Haven’t we had enough pandering to foreign countries who just laugh at us and take advantage of us?

Yes, famous victim of foreign bullying, the United States lol

Uninteresting 10-10-2025 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3958251)
Who cares?

Haven’t we had enough pandering to foreign countries who just laugh at us and take advantage of us?

bingo. The current pres is mopping up the pandering to China that the nice old man gave away. China has been ripping us off economically, technologically, and militarily. it ends now.

Uninteresting 10-10-2025 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3958258)
Yes, famous victim of foreign bullying, the United States lol

nothing to see here with China. it’s all
in our heads.

Extenda 10-10-2025 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Uninteresting (Post 3958270)
nothing to see here with China. it’s all
in our heads.

You can think that we have to be tougher with China AND not economically declare WWIII on everyone else, all at the same time.

An aside: If we’re gonna wage an economic war against China, I don’t want to bail out a bunch of soybean farmers with my tax dollars who can’t sell their soybeans anymore because China decided to buy them from South America.

notEnuf 10-10-2025 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 3958285)
You can think that we have to be tougher with China AND not economically declare WWIII on everyone else, all at the same time.

An aside: If we’re gonna wage an economic war against China, I don’t want to bail out a bunch of soybean farmers with my tax dollars who can’t sell their soybeans anymore because China decided to buy them from South America.

Farm subsidies need to stop anyway. Most of them are large corporate farms now and we are propping up failed uses like ethanol that are not economically viable without the subsidy.

Meme In Command 10-10-2025 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Uninteresting (Post 3958270)
nothing to see here with China. it’s all
in our heads.

Well we could've been also investing in infrastructure here but big guhbment bad.


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