Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3959802)

if your media diet has fed you this, you really need to rethink the places from which you receive information

Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3959846)

we talked about how you’re wrong about ivanpah in another thread, but here it is again.

and no, he’s not right about the energy required to construct a wind generator.

Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3959852)

For commercial/large size windmills, it’s well in excess of a decade to break even, sometimes nearly 2 decades. The lifespan is approximately 25 years, at least from what I can find. So it will pay for itself eventually, but it’s no panacea. I think they finally found some way to recycle the used blades finally, other than burying Oh them in the dirt. So there’s that.

Originally Posted by Tailhookah (Post 3959851)

At an extraordinary cost for that wind generated kilowatt, you are correct. But an apples to apples comparison, not even close to coal or natural gas. The price for wind vs fossil fuel electric generation is more and when you add the necessary fossil fuel backup, which is needed when (gasp) the wind stops blowing or the sun doesn’t shine it’s not even close.

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3959834)

Greenies

unicorns and rainbows aspirations. You had your fun, now adults are back in charge.

If you want solar and wind, put it on your house.

Originally Posted by Tailhookah (Post 3959838)

Keep your head in the hole green ostrich. The truth will set you free. You’ve been brainwashed. There’s no such thing as green energy or renewable. Do some research and take down the Al Gore poster in your porn room. He’s a sham.

Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3959855)

stop getting news from memes

Originally Posted by Tailhookah (Post 3959746)

Are you a green plant or a FOC (friend of China)? Coal is clean if burned correctly. The while plume coming out of stacks is steam…. You could stick your face in that plume and get a steam bath. Wind has not been good and only makes sense is very windy environments or very rural off grid areas. A wind generator doesn’t make enough electricity in its lifespan to overcome the cost of building it. And big solar farms are hit or miss. Where solar would be more reasonable is to mandate (in areas where there’s enough yearly sunlight and cloudless days, no trees etc) that every new home built/condo/apartment building to have mandatory solar panels on the roofs. Then solar makes sense. The combined solar output in those communities augments the KW needed to power those communities.

Fly into Vegas, Phoenix, Cali and scratch your head why there’s not solar on every roof. Big solar farms can be wiped out by 1 freak hail storm. As it’s already happened.

Nothing beats good old fashioned nuclear and fossil fuel use. Augment this power with solar and use wind only where it’s needed. But the rest is a joke.

Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3959802)

if your media diet has fed you this, you really need to rethink the places from which you receive information