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Hotel Kilo 10-14-2025 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3959911)
perhaps read the posts i’ve made, where i very specifically call out tailhookah’s comments.

or just rage

I read everyone of your posts here.

But were you not the person posting about 5-6 months ago about how bad tariffs were going to be? They just used tariff revenue to keep WIC funding. Tariff revenue also supports many other USDA programs, instead of our tax money. When have you ever seen that done OOfff?

What I'm getting at here is that you are often not the smartest person in the room. None of us really are. However, we can look at the information out there and present it for others consumption. The power experiment with wind and solar has pretty much run its course globally. Reality is a powerful thing.

OOfff 10-14-2025 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3959928)
I read everyone of your posts here.

But were you not the person posting about 5-6 months ago about how bad tariffs were going to be? They just used tariff revenue to keep WIC funding. Tariff revenue also supports many other USDA programs, instead of our tax money. When have you ever seen that done OOfff?

What I'm getting at here is that you are often not the smartest person in the room. None of us really are. However, we can look at the information out there and present it for others consumption. The power experiment with wind and solar has pretty much run its course globally. Reality is a powerful thing.

gosh, i would hate for you to feel like someone thinks they’re smarter than you. maybe we should head back to the 787 thread so you can pretend to be “the smartest guy in the room” over there? glass houses and all that


as for tariffs, i think we will see inflation coming home to roost on that front, but i, like you, am not an economist. i am but an idiot with a keyboard

OOfff 10-14-2025 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3959927)
I have never even seen your meme. I did my own research. Again, for the larger farms, which is what I am really talking about, it’s a decade, give or take (and can vary by individual location due to wind speed/contancy/remoteness/etc).

even if it’s a decade (it isn’t), in a 20-year lifespan you’re 50% ahead.

MaxQ 10-14-2025 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3959909)
Curious where you are getting your info. France is doing fine.



Carbon neutrality. Scary

Responding to your post because it is short in the quote portion. Not singling you out specifically. :)

While I am certain there are many quality websites I am ignorant of, may I recommend Energysleptic.org

Everyone posting the last few pages should find information there that would be of interest.


Nantonaku 10-14-2025 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3959935)
gosh, i would hate for you to feel like someone thinks they’re smarter than you. maybe we should head back to the 787 thread so you can pretend to be “the smartest guy in the room” over there? glass houses and all that


as for tariffs, i think we will see inflation coming home to roost on that front, but i, like you, am not an economist. i am but an idiot with a keyboard

At least you use periods. Now if only you could start your sentences with capital letters.

SideStickMonkey 10-14-2025 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by MaxQ (Post 3959943)
Responding to your post because it is short in the quote portion. Not singling you out specifically. :)

While I am certain there are many quality websites I am ignorant of, may I recommend Energysleptic.org

Everyone posting the last few pages should find information there that would be of interest.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=65785

There’s the whole article



SideStickMonkey 10-14-2025 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3959928)
I read everyone of your posts here.

But were you not the person posting about 5-6 months ago about how bad tariffs were going to be? They just used tariff revenue to keep WIC funding. Tariff revenue also supports many other USDA programs, instead of our tax money. When have you ever seen that done OOfff?

What I'm getting at here is that you are often not the smartest person in the room. None of us really are. However, we can look at the information out there and present it for others consumption. The power experiment with wind and solar has pretty much run its course globally. Reality is a powerful thing.

Must be great using traiffs (otherwise known as taxes paid by the populace) to pay for things

Tariffs are just another consumption tax. Price of goods go up, so does inflation.

But since we keep firing the people that track this information I’m sure it’s all on the up and up

MaxQ 10-14-2025 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey (Post 3959949)
Must be great using traiffs (otherwise known as taxes paid by the populace) to pay for things

Tariffs are just another consumption tax. Price of goods go up, so does inflation.

But since we keep firing the people that track this information I’m sure it’s all on the up and up

According to Center for Economic and Policy Research the actual recent tariffs have been about 8.5% of import goods. Even though promised at 17.5%.

Large importers tend to not be paying them. They make "deals", so they avoid them. (actually the "deals" would be more accurately called purchase and sale agreements. Same as the international trade deals)
Example: Apple CEO gave the current President gift of a gold medallion. On television no less. As a result, Apple is now exempt from the 100% tariffs on semi-conductors and the tariffs on smartphones.

This shows up in the more recent job loss figures. They are being borne mostly by small and midsize employers.
They simply can't pay the protection racket money. So they get hit with the tariffs.

The reason there hasn't been more inflation from tariffs is they aren't being applied in the amounts stated.


SideStickMonkey 10-14-2025 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by MaxQ (Post 3959961)
According to Center for Economic and Policy Research the actual recent tariffs have been about 8.5% of import goods. Even though promised at 17.5%.

Large importers tend to not be paying them. They make "deals", so they avoid them. (actually the "deals" would be more accurately called purchase and sale agreements. Same as the international trade deals)
Example: Apple CEO gave the current President gift of a gold medallion. On television no less. As a result, Apple is now exempt from the 100% tariffs on semi-conductors and the tariffs on smartphones.

This shows up in the more recent job loss figures. They are being borne mostly by small and midsize employers.
They simply can't pay the protection racket money. So they get hit with the tariffs.

The reason there hasn't been more inflation from tariffs is they aren't being applied in the amounts stated.

So it’s a grift and a con job

FL370esq 10-15-2025 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3959854)
Bring on nuclear! Even France realizes that it is a great option.

And so does Iran...😁


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