New hires base/fleet
10-02-2025 | 06:48 AM
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Yeah I kind of figured you mean that, but it didn't read well. Just wanted to clarify more for other people who may not know.
Some people might think that the holdback is a bad thing for the flows, but in reality it's a pretty good deal. They knock out 3 months of what would have been first year pay at a much higher 9E captain rate. This also knocks out 3 months of probation (unless they hit 400 hours first anyways). And then they hit the line 3 months later than everyone else in their class, meaning in most categories they already have a good buffer of people below them already on the line so they most likely won't be super junior on reserve, or maybe even walk straight into a line. And finally as was mentioned they can bid on AE's before they ever actually hit indoc so there is a much smaller chance that they have to spend a month or two in an undesirable base before being able to trasnfer.
Some people might think that the holdback is a bad thing for the flows, but in reality it's a pretty good deal. They knock out 3 months of what would have been first year pay at a much higher 9E captain rate. This also knocks out 3 months of probation (unless they hit 400 hours first anyways). And then they hit the line 3 months later than everyone else in their class, meaning in most categories they already have a good buffer of people below them already on the line so they most likely won't be super junior on reserve, or maybe even walk straight into a line. And finally as was mentioned they can bid on AE's before they ever actually hit indoc so there is a much smaller chance that they have to spend a month or two in an undesirable base before being able to trasnfer.
10-02-2025 | 03:56 PM
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We’ll have a pretty good idea of what will be going to new hires after whatever AE has a large number of B positions. I agree that there are probably a ton of 717 and 220 pilots who will be jumping ship to the 737 or 320, either for the better pay and/or a more desirable base. And of course probably a healthy amount of people leaving NYC as always.
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