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hockeypilot44 02-25-2026 09:12 AM

Quicks slips are showing in icrew now.

CX500T 02-25-2026 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 4006691)
Quicks slips are showing in icrew now.

But also showing "MUST BE REG AT LEAST ONE DAY" which is not how this is supposed to work.

And no QS under RES Slips either.

Grab screenshot, DART it, because if it's not working for all, it's not contractually compliant and pushes back the sick lookback start date.

GutterGuard 02-25-2026 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 4006696)
But also showing "MUST BE REG AT LEAST ONE DAY" which is not how this is supposed to work.

And no QS under RES Slips either.

Grab screenshot, DART it, because if it's not working for all, it's not contractually compliant and pushes back the sick lookback start date.

The sick lookback is currently held up by micrew sick/well automation, which is still not fixed.

Valar Morghulis 02-25-2026 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 4006696)
But also showing "MUST BE REG AT LEAST ONE DAY" which is not how this is supposed to work.

And no QS under RES Slips either.

Grab screenshot, DART it, because if it's not working for all, it's not contractually compliant and pushes back the sick lookback start date.

It’s fixed.

Abouttime2fish 02-26-2026 03:20 AM

Out of curiosity I checked the daily coverage help screen to see what code they would use for quick slips. Guess they didn’t think that far. Q is already taken. Z is available…. QS and a number is probably too many characters and would lead to another IT meltdown.

Rooster435 02-26-2026 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by LumberJack (Post 4005700)
That is false. Maybe you weren't here before ARCOS.

GS and IA used to be covered manually one at a time and we had the best reliability.

With proper staffing for both pilots and schedulers, more resilient trip construction, better usage of reserves, etc., the company solves their problem.

But there weren’t hundreds of pilots in category with blanket out of base white slips in. Back before ARCOS (and really after ARCOS but before Auto Accept) you didn’t have a slip in unless you actually wanted to fly something (otherwise you’d be constantly getting called for trips you couldn’t or wouldn’t do).

Frank Grimes 02-26-2026 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 4006882)
But there weren’t hundreds of pilots in category with blanket out of base white slips in. Back before ARCOS (and really after ARCOS but before Auto Accept) you didn’t have a slip in unless you actually wanted to fly something (otherwise you’d be constantly getting called for trips you couldn’t or wouldn’t do).

He's also forgetting that the GS and IAs in the past weren't proffers.

Whoopsmybad 02-26-2026 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Frank Grimes (Post 4006893)
He's also forgetting that the GS and IAs in the past weren't proffers.

And we have thousands and thousands of more pilots.

FangsF15 02-26-2026 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 4006882)
But there weren’t hundreds of pilots in category with blanket out of base white slips in. Back before ARCOS (and really after ARCOS but before Auto Accept) you didn’t have a slip in unless you actually wanted to fly something (otherwise you’d be constantly getting called for trips you couldn’t or wouldn’t do).

Yes, but…. Even with ARCOS and AA, until about 6-9 months ago, none of this was a problem. At least, anything like the 20-50x scale it is today.

IMO there are two things that led us here. To a lesser extent, the unintended effects of 2-day coverage, which set set the stage for the second: the obliteration of batch sizes.

The genie might be out of the bottle, I don’t know if going back to batch sizes would return pilot ‘slip behavior’ to the stable place this was in 24-25 (in terms of trip coverage).

Abouttime2fish 02-26-2026 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 4006897)
And we have thousands and thousands of more pilots.

thousands and thousands??? I think we have 2500ish more pilots now than when ARCOS was implemented. I could be wrong, my old timer memory not being what is used to be.

and get off my lawn


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