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A list of the president’s false claims that the war in Iran he started was all but over.
- “On day 10 of the war, the president said, quote: ‘The war is very complete.’
- Then, day 11: ‘Going to be finished pretty quickly.’
- Day 12: ‘We won.’
- Day 21: ‘Getting very close.’
- Day 32: ‘Leaving very soon.’
- Day 40: ‘Total and complete victory.’
- Day 49, Trump said Iran had opened the strait, pushing the stock market near all time high, yet today the strait is closed, and it looks like Iran is shooting at ships”
Trump negotiates in public all the time. His messaging isn't for your consumption, it's for the other guys. You are smarter than that Trip, c'mon man.
After 47 years of hate, it's really close now. Like it or not.
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You can't be serious Kilo. Nearly every Geopolitical expert says Iran has the high ground and they simply have to do nothing to win. Trump constantly moving the goalposts by 2 weeks after threatening to attack Iran's infrastructure is a clear sign of who really is in control.
There are two options here:
1. Trump TACO and comes to a diplomatic agreement with Iran with permanent peace guarantee.
2. Conflict escalates, Dated Brent(physical price) goes to $200 and a global depression emerges.
One thing about Trump, he may be a narcissist but he's not stupid. I think we get a diplomatic agreement as soon as this week.
It will take at least 6-12 months for jet fuel supply to normalize though. 2026 is cooked for airlines ex-Delta
There are two options here:
1. Trump TACO and comes to a diplomatic agreement with Iran with permanent peace guarantee.
2. Conflict escalates, Dated Brent(physical price) goes to $200 and a global depression emerges.
One thing about Trump, he may be a narcissist but he's not stupid. I think we get a diplomatic agreement as soon as this week.
It will take at least 6-12 months for jet fuel supply to normalize though. 2026 is cooked for airlines ex-Delta
Markets are pricing the end game already. You fail to mention that. They will continue to price that with maybe some bumps here and there, but overall the markets don't agree with your juxtapositions.
The dooming here really has reached a fever pitch. Almost bordering on the insane. I'll be happy to eat crow come fall. But I believe in what we are doing is the right thing and in the end, not far away BTW, this will make the world a more stable place.
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You keep saying this, but you're wrong. Are you an oil exec here in the US for your part time gig? That's not what they are saying. Again, figured you to be smarter than to buy into the panic.
Markets are pricing the end game already. You fail to mention that. They will continue to price that with maybe some bumps here and there, but overall the markets don't agree with your juxtapositions.
The dooming here really has reached a fever pitch. Almost bordering on the insane. I'll be happy to eat crow come fall. But I believe in what we are doing is the right thing and in the end, not far away BTW, this will make the world a more stable place.
Markets are pricing the end game already. You fail to mention that. They will continue to price that with maybe some bumps here and there, but overall the markets don't agree with your juxtapositions.
The dooming here really has reached a fever pitch. Almost bordering on the insane. I'll be happy to eat crow come fall. But I believe in what we are doing is the right thing and in the end, not far away BTW, this will make the world a more stable place.
#85
You keep saying this, but you're wrong. Are you an oil exec here in the US for your part time gig? That's not what they are saying. Again, figured you to be smarter than to buy into the panic.
Markets are pricing the end game already. You fail to mention that. They will continue to price that with maybe some bumps here and there, but overall the markets don't agree with your juxtapositions.
The dooming here really has reached a fever pitch. Almost bordering on the insane. I'll be happy to eat crow come fall. But I believe in what we are doing is the right thing and in the end, not far away BTW, this will make the world a more stable place.
Markets are pricing the end game already. You fail to mention that. They will continue to price that with maybe some bumps here and there, but overall the markets don't agree with your juxtapositions.
The dooming here really has reached a fever pitch. Almost bordering on the insane. I'll be happy to eat crow come fall. But I believe in what we are doing is the right thing and in the end, not far away BTW, this will make the world a more stable place.
Please don't mention Hegseth who thought Samuel L Jackson's epic lines in Pulp Fiction was a real Bible verse
As far as the market, again you are staring at WTI and Brent Futures, which trade violently based on algorithms that read Bloomberg headlines within a split second of release. Many times those futures trade as a remarkable disconnect to the reality of the dated Brent/physical market.
If you want to take that as face value of what the market's are pricing in........Good Luck
#86
I mean, neither of you are experts in the oil industry so everything you say here are just regurgitated information from your news and bias of choice. I've certainly videos from actual experts who were adamently opposed to Biden's energy policy raising red flags over what is happening now.
Most generalists stare at the WTI/Brent Futures and assume that's what gas prices are. Most are unaware of the different qualities of Crude and how Refiner economics are effected by shortages in certain qualities like Medium Sour
#87
That said, the last month has seen more deleted posts (on both sides) than anytime I can remember. Trying to keep discussion on the rails has been… a challenge.
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Trip staed facts BTW.

