China and PED’s
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also, the rate at which this happens is minuscule. They don’t care about your dog photos. They probably suspect you of a crime already.
#22
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Not true at all.
https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-te...our-electronic
"The government has long claimed that Fourth Amendment protections prohibiting warrantless searches don’t apply at the border."
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-searc...tronic-devices
"All travelers crossing the United States border are subject to CBP inspection. On rare occasions, CBP officers may search a traveler’s mobile phone, computer, camera, or other electronic devices during the inspection process."
And they don't need our passwords to search our phones anymore
https://epic.org/how-cbp-uses-hackin...velers-phones/
"Cellebrite produces a mobile forensics tool, Universal Forensics Extraction Device (UFED), that allows law enforcement to extract data from mobile devices, including encrypted, password-protected, and deleted data. Cellebrite also sells an analytical tool that efficiently decodes, translates, and organizes extracted data. Grayshift’s Graykey is a mobile forensic tool that can extract data from “locked and encrypted” iPhones. PenLink’s PLX software can extract and analyze location data, a person’s social media and email communications, and other files. Magnet AXIOM boasts an ability to recover data from cell phones, computers, and cloud services. To extract cell phone data, Magnet AXIOM pairs with Graykey, Cellebrite, and Oxygen software. Oxygen software, like Graykey and Cellebrite, is a forensic mobile extraction tool that advertises capabilities including “bypassing screen locks, locating passwords to backups, extracting and parsing data from secure applications and uncovering deleted data.” As of today, CBP has at least $1,299,552 worth of active contracts for Cellebrite, Grayshift, PenLink, and Magnet Forensics software."
https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-te...our-electronic
"The government has long claimed that Fourth Amendment protections prohibiting warrantless searches don’t apply at the border."
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-searc...tronic-devices
"All travelers crossing the United States border are subject to CBP inspection. On rare occasions, CBP officers may search a traveler’s mobile phone, computer, camera, or other electronic devices during the inspection process."
And they don't need our passwords to search our phones anymore
https://epic.org/how-cbp-uses-hackin...velers-phones/
"Cellebrite produces a mobile forensics tool, Universal Forensics Extraction Device (UFED), that allows law enforcement to extract data from mobile devices, including encrypted, password-protected, and deleted data. Cellebrite also sells an analytical tool that efficiently decodes, translates, and organizes extracted data. Grayshift’s Graykey is a mobile forensic tool that can extract data from “locked and encrypted” iPhones. PenLink’s PLX software can extract and analyze location data, a person’s social media and email communications, and other files. Magnet AXIOM boasts an ability to recover data from cell phones, computers, and cloud services. To extract cell phone data, Magnet AXIOM pairs with Graykey, Cellebrite, and Oxygen software. Oxygen software, like Graykey and Cellebrite, is a forensic mobile extraction tool that advertises capabilities including “bypassing screen locks, locating passwords to backups, extracting and parsing data from secure applications and uncovering deleted data.” As of today, CBP has at least $1,299,552 worth of active contracts for Cellebrite, Grayshift, PenLink, and Magnet Forensics software."
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#24
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Make sure you disable facial recognition if you want it to be their problem. US customs can by the way force non citizens including green Card holders to unlock their phones as a condition of entry. China’s policy simply mirrors ours.
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Facial recognition doesn't work after a shutdown or reboot. That's why you shutdown/reboot/lockdown first.
#26
Why did they care about me? I was randomly selected for additional screening without ever given a reason. What might me minuscule now could be the new norm in the future. Why do you think airports are using facial screening software? It is no faster than scanning a boarding pass, but now it gives a nice database so a cop can quickly scan your face when you happen to be walking past a protest event during your overnight. Now your social credit score takes a hit.
#27
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They already have software that can copy your entire phone. Those same software companies advertise that they have the ability to get past lock screens. It really isn't too hard to connect those dots. They don't need a passcode. There have also been numerous court cases of the CBP trying to claim that they have the right to search data on the cloud that a phone connected to at any point in history. Why would they argue that point if they didn't have the ability to do it? That means one day you might come back from vacation and CBP sees a meme you liked 20 years ago and decides you are a problem. A little A.I. analysis of your bank records shows some suspicious activity and now you get audited.
"Guility people are the only ones who should be worried" is some bootlicking logic right there.
Why did they care about me? I was randomly selected for additional screening without ever given a reason. What might me minuscule now could be the new norm in the future. Why do you think airports are using facial screening software? It is no faster than scanning a boarding pass, but now it gives a nice database so a cop can quickly scan your face when you happen to be walking past a protest event during your overnight. Now your social credit score takes a hit.
"Guility people are the only ones who should be worried" is some bootlicking logic right there.
Why did they care about me? I was randomly selected for additional screening without ever given a reason. What might me minuscule now could be the new norm in the future. Why do you think airports are using facial screening software? It is no faster than scanning a boarding pass, but now it gives a nice database so a cop can quickly scan your face when you happen to be walking past a protest event during your overnight. Now your social credit score takes a hit.
When you eventually are able to clear your name with the help of a very expensive lawyer, your retirement will be gone and you will have to fight to get your job back. The government doesn't need to PROVE you did anything wrong or send you to jail to completely ruin your life. Doing a perp walk as "Delta Captain Smith arrested on suspicion of terrorism" is enough to ruin your life
#28
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They already have software that can copy your entire phone. Those same software companies advertise that they have the ability to get past lock screens. It really isn't too hard to connect those dots. They don't need a passcode. There have also been numerous court cases of the CBP trying to claim that they have the right to search data on the cloud that a phone connected to at any point in history. Why would they argue that point if they didn't have the ability to do it? That means one day you might come back from vacation and CBP sees a meme you liked 20 years ago and decides you are a problem. A little A.I. analysis of your bank records shows some suspicious activity and now you get audited.
#29
And almost no one uses GrapheneOS or Proton. I use Proton, but I also know my phone has enough data on it for a lifetimes worth of worthless investigations if I **** off the wrong border agent. Sure, my email might be hard for them to read right now, but they will see that last month I had breakfast during a layover at a restaurant full of “No Kings” protesters.
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They already have software that can copy your entire phone. Those same software companies advertise that they have the ability to get past lock screens. It really isn't too hard to connect those dots. They don't need a passcode. There have also been numerous court cases of the CBP trying to claim that they have the right to search data on the cloud that a phone connected to at any point in history. Why would they argue that point if they didn't have the ability to do it? That means one day you might come back from vacation and CBP sees a meme you liked 20 years ago and decides you are a problem. A little A.I. analysis of your bank records shows some suspicious activity and now you get audited.
"Guility people are the only ones who should be worried" is some bootlicking logic right there.
Why did they care about me? I was randomly selected for additional screening without ever given a reason. What might me minuscule now could be the new norm in the future. Why do you think airports are using facial screening software? It is no faster than scanning a boarding pass, but now it gives a nice database so a cop can quickly scan your face when you happen to be walking past a protest event during your overnight. Now your social credit score takes a hit.
"Guility people are the only ones who should be worried" is some bootlicking logic right there.
Why did they care about me? I was randomly selected for additional screening without ever given a reason. What might me minuscule now could be the new norm in the future. Why do you think airports are using facial screening software? It is no faster than scanning a boarding pass, but now it gives a nice database so a cop can quickly scan your face when you happen to be walking past a protest event during your overnight. Now your social credit score takes a hit.


